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Old 05-20-2008, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rameumptom View Post
We have statements from Brigham Young that directly deal with his view on the curse of Cain and a priesthood ban. In 32 years, I have never found anything on Joseph Smith discussing a priesthood ban or imposing such a ban on anyone.

Most LDS scholars I know agree that Joseph was not involved in any priesthood ban, regardless of whether he thought the blacks were cursed. And on those scholars that think Joseph felt they were cursed, it was over slavery, not priesthood.
I would hate to think that the academia can read the mind of the prophet. He never stated the curse was a slavery issue.

Yes! I do note there are several articles that tell us that through the curse of Canaan, slavery was allowed by GOD. It was not the very curse that was pronounced by Noah unto this grandson; it was mainly slavery. It was a result of one parental endulgement in sin that led to this additional cursing among his mortal brethren – cause and effect. I don’t see anywhere with slavery as the main curse but that slavery was additional sub-set of that very curse. Can show me any biblical historical record that there were Canaan children receiving the priesthood ordination under the hand of God?

Ram, I will keep looking and make this a personal subject as to collecting various articles in summarizing it into a centric file for my children as references. Also, you need to remember, I do have the same articles, JD, HoC, and other various journals, as the Apologetics do but I don't follow the scholars as it was gospel because they said it was. Ultimately for me in finding truth, there is a Savior and Joseph Smith that can answer that question. This is the difference between them and me. Now, if I did follow them, I would not have that type testimony that a few could receive in this life.

Again, I did quoted it about the curse - meaning priesthood - that was not taken off of the children Canaan by Joseph Smith, as President Benson remarked in his conference speech. [See Documentary of the Church p. 438] after he translated the BOA. If you are looking for literal words for Joseph to say; "the priesthood is banned for the blacks...", you are not going to find it.

I do thank you for your personal insights.
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