[Elphaba]

Originally Posted by rameumptom

Of course, there isn't an icon that shows tongue in cheek.

I think the pink icon with her tongue sticking out is close, and I agree I should have used it, as I was not upset at all

You did once mention yourself as "Second Poster" in a retort against WF.

I have looked for this but can't find it. Could you please send me a link? I don't remember saying "Second Poster" except in Justamre10's post. (I might have spelled Just's name incorrectly. I'm too lazy to go look it up right now.)

As for me, I believe all are children of God, and so each should be called by an appropriate name.

"Elphaba" is as appropriate as appropriate can be. If fits me perfectly.

I would be interested in knowing the provenance of your name. Elphaba is not quite a choice name, considering it is the name given the wicked witch of the west! Of course, the green skin would apply, given your icon. However, I do not recall the WWotW having as nice complexion.

You'd have to see the musical to understand.

The timeframe in Wicked is long before Dorothy arrives on the scene. It shows Elphaba's progression from a terribly lonely young woman who desperately wants people to see her for who she is, not what she looks like, to her realization she is powerful, compassionate and good, just as she is.

She sings The Wizard and I when she is first told she has a wonderful gift, and that she must go to Oz to train with the Wizard. She does not realize his true nature, and thus feels like she is finally going to be accepted. This version was taken by a fan, and his camera shakes, but it is very good.

One of the things you don't see in the movie is that Elphaba and Glinda are fast friends. However, there is a twist at the end.

I love Elphaba's passion, which does get her in trouble; however, her commitment to the "underdog" has much to do with this. She is not evil at all, but circumstances make her look like she is to the inhabitants of Oz.

And, of course, once the Wizard discovers her powers, he is threatened by her, and sends his henchman after her. When she "defies" him, she finally realizes she can use her powers for good, but that she must do so where she will not be misunderstood; thus her move to the West.

This is when Idina Menzel belts out Defying Gravity, and it will always be one of my favorite sings.

Did you use to root against Dorothy as a child, or have people viewed you as a wicked witch since leaving Mormonism and Christianity behind?

Of course not, at least not to my face. If they did it wouldn't bother me. I know who I am and what I am guilty of and not. I am comfortable with who I am, and know I am a wonderful human being, who does not let anyone else define me, my concern for those who are the weakest among us, my beliefs, and finally my character.

By the way, the book is nothing like the musical. It was a fascinating read, but is very dark.

In fact, the producers of the musical really only used the same names from the book, and that is about it. I am so glad one of the names is Elphaba.

By the way, I don't know if this was in the Wiki article, but the author of the book created the name "Elphaba" from L.F.Baum's name, who wrote the original book.

El = L; PH = F;, and Ba = Baum.

Elphaba, and proud of it!