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Old 07-27-2008, 03:34 PM
ceeboo
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Originally Posted by Islander View Post
Oh, no on the contrary. I was hoping to hear your thoughts on the matter. I read your posts but I did not understand what you mean by "different accounts of JS." I extrapolated that you were referring to contemporary writings of those outside of the church or newspaper accounts of the time period. That is why I mention "The Passover Conspiracy" as an example of an extant record to the bible. It paints quite a different account of the days leading to the crucifixion than the one in the Gospels thus it should not be the primary source if I'm researching Christianity, for example.

So, by all means, do explain.
Hello again Islander,

Okay, I will try and explain.

The different accounts of JS history has a few layers in my mind, I will offer the one that gives me the most trouble. ( I would add that because it gives me trouble is NOT to demand a satisfactory reply, rather it is to ask LDS members that would willingly lend me their observations.)

The " translation " by JS from the gold tabs. The varying acoounts go like this.

He had gold bars in front of him while scribes, sitting next to him, wrote it down.

He sometimes has gold tabs present and sometimes he did not ( they were hidden in woods )

He " translated BOM from using seer stones while looking in the bottom of a hat ( NO GOLD TABS)

he used urim and tellium ( sorry forgot the words and spelling ) " similar to eye spectacles"
to translate.

To me, ( I realize I am nobody specialial and indeed broken like the rest of us ) to " traslate " would be to take an unknown language and put it in the language for the people to undersatnd. If the ancient gold tabs were not even in the same room as JS, what was he translating from?

I am NOT judging, I AM VERY confused as to the very birth and origin of the BOM.

Thanks,
God bless,
Carl
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