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Originally Posted by ceeboo
I am not sure it would be fair or accurate to imply we ( Catholics and LDS ) believe in the same Jesus Christ ??
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But we do. We both believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible. We may not always believe the same
details about him, but there is only one Christ and we both believe in that same one.
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To suggest the " early church " fell into apostasy and in the same sentence to add that "particulary since the Protestent reformation " seems to be a HUGE contradiction in itself.
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I'm sorry, I do not see the contradiction. Could you clarify?
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Originally Posted by ceeboo
What I do not agree with is that those cautions had to do with the " Church " that Jesus built on the " rock of Peter " in which Jesus himself said would prevail over ALL.
If you believe it has not prevailed ( went into Great Apostasy ), you would have to say Jesus was wrong or was not telling the truth.
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No, we don't believe Jesus was wrong or that he lied. The church will prevail over all
eventually (one could argue that it is already in that process). Jesus never said that an apostasy would not occur. And keep in mind that all promises from God are predicated upon the faithfulness of humanity. God has revoked his promises many times when mankind has not held up their end of the agreement.
And as has already been pointed out, the "rock" was not Peter, but revelation.
I'm sorry, it looks like I'm picking on you! I certainly don't mean to. I've really enjoyed your very thoughtful and intelligent replies.
For what it's worth, I was raised Catholic and I believed in an apostasy before I ever learned anything about the LDS church. I got this idea from the scriptures in the Bible and a comparison of God's dealings with people today (i.e. no prophets) compared to Biblical times (prophets). That was before I knew that there is a living prophet today, of course.