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Originally Posted by bytor2112
Elphaba.....first of all, you have quoted a bunch of guys that want to sell books
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Bytor,
Usually I let these kinds of disagreements go. But not this time.
These “bunch of guys” were
all top officials in Bush’s administration. George Tenet was the head of the CIA for crying out loud--not just a lackey out to make a quick buck off the president.
All four books I referenced were written by people who were as close to the president as it gets. They were in positions to know how Bush operated, and that is something we, as Americans, should know as well.
I explained this in my last post, but you missed it: One of the books was written by Bush’s press secretary, Scott McLellan, who had believed in the president, and was a trusted member of the Bush team from when Bush was governor of Texas. He was as loyal to Bush as is possible--he still is.
However, he acknowledges the reasons Bush has been so negligent and why he’s made so many mistakes that could have been avoided.
Additionally, I said these books were four
out of many, most of them also written by high-level appointees who were able to see Bush’s incompetence firsthand. So it is wrong to dismiss the books I referenced out of hand.
I will say one thing about these men, and that is that it infuriates me they did not speak up at the time the things they write about were happening. Even Federal Chairman Alan Greenspan, who essentially oversaw our economy until his resignation, said he knew Bush’s economic policies were dangerous, but he did not say anything at the time! I hold all of these men accountable.
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and no one wants to buy a book that is favorable to a sitting president.
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Of course they would, especially with THIS sitting president. If the favorable book were written by a former high-level appointee, as is true with the books I referenced, it would be flying off the shelves.
Americans are craving to know what is really going on with Bush right now, positive or negative. Our country has been traumatized over and over and over again during his tenure, but he has bungled things so badly, people are afraid. They want to be reassured Bush is up to his job, although, I suspect only his loyal base actually thinks he would be. Everyone else has had it with him.
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I was merely pointing out the misinterpretation of the comments
from his speeches.
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Oh please.
You weren’t “merely” doing anything. You were angry because you didn’t like what I was saying about Bush, and you crossed the line with your “intellectually dishonest” comment.
As far as misinterpreting Bush’s comments, he has used the “with us or against us” mantra many times, not just immediately after 9/11. And considering how many people, including American citizens, have been detained with no due process, languishing in prison for years, it’s obvious Bush was talking about all of us, not just rogue countries hiding terrorists. Google Jose Padilla some day, and you’ll see who Bush was talking about.
In fact, if what you say is true, common sense says that is where his focus should have been, and not Iraq. For example, it doesn‘t take an Einstein to know his priority should have been Afghanistan; he even had advisors tell him so.
But his stubborn and arrogant nature kept him from listening to his experts. And so here we are, with the Taliban resurging. Once again Afghanistan is being ruled by religious fanatics, who by the way, love to see women buried up to their heads and then stoned to death, because they were walking down the street without the burkha on. You gotta love those honor killings.
I suspect this is an issue on which we’ll never agree, and that is okay. But I will continue to talk any way I want to about the man, and you can continue not liking it. I don’t mind being the ball and you can be the bat, but can we play without the insults?
Elphaba