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Old 11-20-2008, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Elphaba View Post
This is why I disagree.

Having said that, I noticed the product does not have a price per se; rather, it has a suggested donation that corresponds with the price the item would sell for. So I wonder if the AFA is funded by a parent company where profits are not the goal. If so, that would pretty much negate everything I just wrote. Well, most of it.
First, I've known of AFA for years, but am not on their list. So, I know them for the "family values" advocacy, not their line of religious trinkets. My guess is the sales are simply meant to help fund their advocacy efforts, and that the vetting process is extremely short and informal. I live in the northwest, am in a biracial/bicultural marriage, and I did not get the implications when I first saw the ad. Of course, once someone explained it, "Oh my...yeah...I can see that."

By the by, I think there is a sense amongst many whites of being tired of everything seeming to be turned into a racial matter. Sometimes it seems that minorities are overreaching, such as when Jewish groups claimed that Gibson slow-motioned the scene when Judas threw the coins at the leaders in order to highlight the stereotype about "Jews and their money."
Sometimes, we are so hardened by our frustration that we fail to see when something truly does have racial undertones, intended or not.

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Okay, I don't get this. How is the cross itself a symbol of racist history? Was it used without it being burned? If so, I did not know that.
No...not to be burned...just trying to be extra sensitive about the association. Like I said, the message of the cross requires repentence, and it includes a message of guilt, wrong-doing, humiliation before God. Even many Christians have become averse to "bad emotions." So, they want to emphasize God's love and goodness and helpfulness--the cross isn't needed for those messages. Also, there's the Crusades. People killed for their religious beliefs by soldiers marked with crosses.

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I don't understand why people on this thread intimated I am overreacting, yet most of you agree the cross is in poor taste.

Elphaba
Again, we so frustrated by racial criticisms that are unfounded, that we sometimes miss the ones that are legitimate. Also, we sometimes want so much to defend the good intentions of the accused offender, that we miss that an offense has truly happened.

*"Meh" is one of the new words added to the dictionaries. [/quote]
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