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Originally Posted by ceeboo
Hey ya Pale,
I wonder if you could find a " quote " or " bit of history " that would make the Catholics look not so good 
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Well if you want to get into that discussion too, I could go on forever. :P
Really (and I know this is kind of Off-topic) if you want to compare Islamic "extremism" and the Catholic church... well, the catholics have killed millions and millions more.
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I don't judge churches from their past histories, as I know they are all run by imperfect humans. What makes a good or bad church, is what are the doctrines they teach and implement?
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I wasn't trying to judge with the quote, more trying to get a perspective. Anyway, I couldn't agree more with you along the lines of if a church is an institution, it's run by imperfect people. This is why, in my opinion, Christ never said His church should be an institution.
Institutions become "same-old-same-old" and people just attend because they're a member (the majority anyway), this brings to mind children saying on verbatim "I know the church is true, I know Joseph Smith is a prophet, etc,..." ... and they don't even understand what they're saying.
In regards to what makes a "good church," well first of all none of our works (creating a church, being one of them) is good in the eyes of God. The Bible says that all of our works are as filthy rags before God. This is why Bible believing Christians will probably at one time or another say "God is not in the institution of Church..." You are complete in Christ and Christ only, when you become part of the body of Christ through salvation you are saved.