
12-17-2008, 12:19 AM
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knowledge verses imagination
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Originally Posted by prisonchaplain
Traveler, often we say the same things, but from different approaches. You say that your spirit confirms what is flesh and blood. What I actually said was that both aspects must confirm one another. You prioritize the spiritual confirmation, whereas I want both spiritual and physical. Or, to be specific, Bible and that still small voice.
You specifically asked me how I know that the spiritual voice I hear is the voice of God, or Christ. I responded that it would comport with the Bible. You respond by saying you want your Bible to conform to the spiritual voice. It should be both/and not either/or, imho.
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PC: I always enjoy our conversations and believe that I understand myself as well as you through our conversations. I would love to spend a day or two conversing with you. I very much enjoy learning of your perspective. As a scientist the physical universe has always been a curiosity of mine. At the same time I have discovered that the spiritual universe is just as vast and complex. The two are like mirrors of each other.
Many years ago while studying quantum mechanics I developed a theory that all things spiritual exist and are just as real as all things physical. All things physical exist within the dimensions that we can experience within our physical self. Likewise all things spiritual exist in a separate dimension where the laws of physics are in essence different. The two (spiritual and physical) exist not as parallel realities but as intersecting realities.
I used some of the same equations that Einstein used to derive E=MC(squared) and discovered that there is an alternate method to calculate forces that interact. This is done not at the center of the objects but in the intersecting volumes (force fields) that surround each object. By using a particle accelerator there is a delta between attractions or repulsions of the field volumes verses the center of the object of high speed particles. The delta demonstrates the existence of an additional unseen dimension.
I did not mean to flood you with this stuff. Only to point out my reason for understanding the connection between that which is spiritual (in a intersecting dimension) and that which is physical and can be experience within the dimensions of time and space which we can record within the same dimensions of time and space.
Now that I have explained all this – it is my belief that a spiritual hug does not exist in the same manner in which a physical hug exist. That if G-d was to hug that it would take place in our physical dimensional space that we experience in the same manner that we would have a hug from anyone else. But the influences and impressions of that which is spirit can only be realized by that which is spiritual that is within us. And that which is spiritual exist without temporal dimension. Which now leaves us with only one possibility. That our spiritual self not being a temporal dimension must therefore exist outside of time and therefore is not created as is that which is physical and temporal. If this spiritual dimension did not exist within us then there is nothing of G-d (of of the spirit) we could experience or sense in any way possible within the dimensions that we exist.
And so it is that I have tried to make sense of what you are trying to tell me – but I am not sure if I understand what it is that you have experienced to be real or imagined. That is why I ask the questions. I will stop here because I have discovered that all that is known must be known by our spirit otherwise it is not known but imagined.
The Traveler
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