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Old 01-05-2009, 11:37 PM
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75 a month and 209 over a year-long period for Food Stamps. Do you realize how many folks live in CC? Do your think any of the regular folks or the Centennial Park folks might be part of the statistics also?[\QUOTE]

Okay, let's put those two together. 75 cases a month in Hildale at an average cost of $829, when the average food stamp cost in Washington County is $250. The average cost in Hildale costs over $500 more than the average case in Washington County. Why is it so much more expensive...because the household size is so much bigger.

And yes, I do comprehend the idea that not every case is a polygamist family. I have a pretty good feel for how statistics work. I would caution you not to try and outflank me with statistics.



ha ha...holy state of Utah...that's funny.

Let me state this again, in case you're not catching on to what I'm saying. I have nothing against these people applying for welfare. I'm not about to let families starve. But to say that there is no wrong-doing on their part is simply false. Either they are living polygamous marriages--which is illegal--or they are encouraging men to have multiple families out of wedlock--which our society at large consider immoral (not to mention the LDS Church). No, they aren't committing welfare fraud...that doesn't automatically mean they're making wise decisions.
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Modern American society considers it immoral. Yeah, modern American society is a great yardstick for measuring morality.

(I'll refrain from comment about the LDS church considering it immoral.)
That's exactly the point--even in a society as backwards as ours (where hardly anything is considered to be immoral), men having multiple families out of wedlock is an immoral decision. How heinous does it have to be for our society to still consider it immoral?

I'm surprised to see you contest the immorality of men having multiple families out of wedlock. Unless of course you're not reading the post and assigning the statement of immorality to polygamy. If this is the case, I encourage you to carefully read again what I wrote about polygamy. You might notice that I called it illegal.

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