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Originally Posted by Traveler
The Seattle area is one of the major anti-LDS areas. When I lived there I had a long conversation with Ed Decker who has made himself a millionaire with his apostasy from LDS. These anti's are so caught up in an anti spirit that they would rather talk ill of LDS than of the Goodness of Christ so much so that seldom will talk to LDS without speaking on something negative. I am convinced that they are so drawn to and delight in that which is negative that they have lost a sense of that which is holy. I believe their bitterness is the modern equivalent of the ancient Scribes and Pharisees.
The Traveler
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Hi Traveler—
This is a remarkable post. So let me make a few remarks. I was born in Seattle and have lived here most of my life. And all that time, I’ve never heard anyone characterize it as, “one of the major anti-LDS areas.” Are there statistics on that? And can you provide us with a list of the other “major” areas? I’m sure you’ve left others on the board wondering where their city ranks.
And what does Ed Decker have to do with anything? I’ve at least heard his name in the context of Mormonism—but I’m sure that puts me in a VERY small minority around here. There actually aren’t that many LDS in the city itself (Mars Hill Church has a larger membership--and it only began in 1996). And since the 1990’s LDS wards have been consolidating (one of the singles wards and the international ward were closed in the North stake) and the overall number is in decline (which is interesting because the city itself has experienced significant population growth during this time). And while I personally know a number of people who have left the LDS Church in Seattle—I have yet to hear anyone credit (or even mention) Mr. Decker.
Continuing through your post, why are you “convinced” LDS apostates are drawn to and delight in the negative? Why do you “believe” apostates are bitter? Speaking for myself, I would disagree with you on all counts. Do you suppose that anyone who leaves the LDS Church over matters of doctrine must be bitter and the equivalent of a Pharisee?
Lastly, what do you and bytor2112 hope to gain with these personal attacks and innuendo? Do you imagine investigators and other nonpartisans who visit the board will discount my posts because I live in Seattle—a known hotbed of anti-Mormonism (according to you)? I can’t help noting that your tactics are likely to be counterproductive. Mind you, I’m not complaining to the mods or even asking you to stop. But I do think we could challenge each other’s conceptions and worldviews without resorting to labels and name-calling (bitter, anti, delighting in the negative, equivalent of a Pharisee, etc.). You tell me, Traveler…
--Erik
PS. Bytor2112 did succeed in motivating me to post an introduction so that folks can have a bit of perspective when I write. Feel free to take a look and let me know if it sounds like I’m driven by “bitterness.”
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