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Old 03-02-2009, 04:17 AM
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My uncle try to persuade me, that D&C contradict Bible. But I don't know about which verse my uncle tell and don't want perturb and force him to find this verse, therefore want asking anyone here, maybe you know where I can find verses, where Jesus told words like: "If someone will deny to drink (or eat) something, don't hear them, because its a lie".
No such passage exists unfortunately. As noted above, there is the scripture that talks about abstaining from meat. Well, alcohol, tobacco, tea and coffee are not meat.

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Most my uncle don't love, that our church deny tea drinking, coffee drinking, alcohol ...
And often he also tell, that even Jesus transform water into the wine.

Can you help me with this and maybe other verses and your things about this problem.
Glad for any answers.
How about 4 books of the Bible: Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. In those books, God handed Israel a very strict list of dietary rules. He did it once, there's no reason he can't do it again. Israel was given some rules as they were on their way into the promised land. They were going into a land filled with a lot of people that were likely to corrupt their faith in God.

It is very interesting to read the reason the Lord gave us section 89: "In consequence of evils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of conspiring men in the last days, I have warned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—"

To simplify, "I the Lord know that a lot of bad people will conspire to use these items to bring about a lot of terrible things." Tobacco companies have certainly been found guilty of exactly that. Beer and alcohol makers have gone to great lengths to glamorize and popularize the consumption of their products. The results? So have there been any bad things coming from these two items? Lung Cancer, Emphysema, Drunk Driving, Alcohol Poisoning, Increased Violence by Angry Drunks, Unwanted Pregnancy by being Drunk, Child and Spousal abuse by drunks, etc. All bad things I would say. From what I'm seeing, this revelation came as a warning for our day specifically. Circumstances were different back in Bible times. I would love to hear what this uncle explain all of the good things that Alcohol is doing for the world. The list is going to be pretty short.

Tea, Coffee and Tobacco were completely unknown to Biblical writers so you're not going to find jack squat on those in the Bible.

Jesus did turn water into wine. That does not equate to "thou shalt drink wine." The Lord can change the rules to fit the times -- that is His prerogative alone.

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