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Originally posted by JohnnyRudick
Or are you saying that Matthew, Luke and John are dishonest?
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Luke possibly. Matthew definately. John doesn't say anything about the virgin birth or Jesus being born at Bethlehem. I don't think he believes it.
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Weather they returned to Nazareth or journeyed to Nazareth,
they still ended up in Nazareth.
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There's no disputing that Jesus was from Nazareth. The point is how he got there. Matthew and Luke are painting the target around the arrow with their birth narratives of Jesus because they're trying to demonstrate how Jesus was from Nazareth, but really born at Bethlehem where the prophecy of Micah says the Messiah is supposed to come from and they both come up with different stories of how Jesus got from A to B.
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This reminds me of a conversation I had with some about there being two Bethlehems.
One in Judea and one in Galilee just outside of Nazareth.
Are you heading in that direction?
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No, the direction I'm leaning in is that Jesus was probably really born in Nazareth and that all oral traditions of him being born at Bethlehem were invented to conform to prophecy.