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Originally Posted by drjme
Why do you Americans like to bust this line out? I am on a number of forums and a lot of these comments are tossed about willy nilly, accusations of 'you are a frothing at the mouth america hater, because you don't like the american government you don't like the american people which means you hate me!!!' (exaggerated yes, but basically implied). It's really sad.....
Do you disagree with me when I say that America is on the road to socialism/communism? if yes, then the American people voted for it.
Do you disagree with me when I say that 8 years after the iraq invasion to liberate them, they are no more free and no more better off than they were with saddam, with millions of dead iraqi civilians and Children? who voted that US government in?
Do you disagree with me when I tell you that the US has 'offence' force bases in over 150 countries and that many countries want them out, but the offence forces aren't budging? who voted for that oppression?
Who voted for abu ghraib and torture?
Who voted for American security forces that operate in Iraq outside of American forces control, under corporate control, that roam wantonly as armed to the teeth mercenaries (formerly known as blackwater etc)?
and on and on.......
Well YOU did of course, with your democratically elected government by choice of the people, a government that endorses all of the above. YOU must be responsible yes?
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I would say you are partially right, Dr. Of course, most of what you're saying are exaggerations designed to raise a point.

No American voted for Abu Ghraib and torture, but there are a lot of Americans who agree with it(There are numerous posts that say this). Is it the majority? I would say no.
Most Americans certainly do not like huge military expenditures on nations that don't want them in there, so I would say they didn't vote for that.
Do most Americans like Blackwater? I would say most Americans don't like American soldiers coming home in bodybags, so the deniability of Blackwater appeals to them.
You're right - Everyone -is- responsible. Therein lies the problem: When everyone's responsible, it's easy to believe no one is responsible.