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Originally Posted by Jesterss
You already took the defensive approach by asking me how would I prove my faith.. I would prove my faith by discussing religion with anyone, any subject, at any time.. That's how.. If you have faith or stand for a testimony, wouldn't you assert what that testimony is, then explain why you believe it?.. That's all I expect.. There's no need to prove to you that there is a God, we both can agree upon that.. The Old and New Testament's of the bible are our foundation..
rhetorical? I'll assume it wasn't. But I'll back my position that there is a God and he is supreme because I have seen miraculous things and I have read of miraculous things performed by him and through him. A historical Jesus did exist and that Jesus told us about God and how we can become a son of God.
I explained why I was here.. To receive an answer and understanding through biblical exegesis to explain to me your belief system and why you believe it... Through passages... pretty simple really..
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I'm not defensive, I just don't share my pearls with ppl that don't seem to really care to hear it anyway. Just trying to figure out who you are. You are the one that said if someone takes a stand of faith they should be able to back it up. I'm just asking the same of you.
Let's say we didn't agree that there was a god. Your evidence would be less than convincing. "I have seen miraculous things and I have read of miraculous things performed by him and through him" isn't enough. Let's say I haven't seen miraculous things or I have good reason to think the things you've read about him and done through him are nothing more than fairy tales. That's the point I was trying to make.
To answer your question...... Why do I (as a mormon) believe in eternal families and marriage? Because I believe the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the true church on the earth today. We have living prophets. The living prophets have said that eternal family is most important.
More importantly I've sought the answer for myself. I have pondered it and prayed and gotten an answer. I am a child of god. Not just a creation but a child. Before we came we were (still are) a family. The grand counsel where the plan of salvation was presented wasn't with a god, it was with my father. I didn't leave the presence of "god" but I left home, i left my father. Once here, in a fallen state, with the imperfections and trials of this world I became in need of a savior and a god to direct my life, a supreme power. My view of father became that of a god, his role changed. So we call him that and worship him. You may not believe those things but the spirit speaks peace to me when I ponder them. I have received a witness from the holy spirit that it's true. I consider that pretty miraculous.
Any time I've had a hard question I turn to that concept to answer it. It always fits because it's true. Even god turns to the concept of a family to get us to understand his words. The verses following the scripture I already posted he compares himself to a loving parent. That's enough for me. I could go into all the examples but it won't change your mind and would make this very very long.
So is my testimony enough for you? Or do you desire to continue to question why or how I could believe? My statements are no different than yours. You have personal revelation that there is a god, personal experiences. I have personal revelation and experiences that family is eternal. It's that simple.