
02-12-2012, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by changed
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No, you have not. (although the third option is that I refuse to play, in which case it is neither win or draw  )
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This thought is very interesting to me. However, it does appear to me that despite all our efforts the simple fact is that we are not in control - not just in general but in our own lives. At least we are not in control of anything in mortality. We like to think we are but have control as a mortal is an illusion.
The course has been determined - this we know from scripture. There is a lot of argumentation that we make choices but those choices do not change the outcome. So if we cannot change the outcome - why do we think we have choices? The answer is because G-d tells us that we have the power of agency - we are what we determine. So how can we determine our destiny or even have input if our destiny is already determined?
The answer is so obvious - I am surprised that no one else seems to get it. The reason that G-d knows the outcome is because it is determined. But because we have agency - it was not G-d that predetermined the outcome - We did!!!
It is our agency and our choices that determine our destiny. In essence we are living our own predetermined choices and outcome. Thus for billions of years before we were born we carefully planned and put together our mortal experience. We planned each trial - we determined our quest - we selected the drama of our life.
Thus it is necessary that we come into this life not knowing and with a veil of forgetfulness. Thus, because we do not know our drama we follow and bring that which was planned to be (by us) from the beginning. (See D&C 93:31)
Now there is a dimension that I have not covered. It is the great paradox between good and evil. Because a good tree cannot bring about evil fruit how could we experience evil? That is the fall. And by falling we become subject to evil and we die. But the plan also includes resurrection. Not only will we be resurrected from mortality but all our sins will be redeemed. And all this was pre-determined. But from modern revelation we know that we - through our agency - already made a choice -- which determined our next estate.
The Traveler
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