[Dr T]

Hi serg,

You said,

…value comes from will, not otherwise.

Not true. There is value apart form will. Look at a child’s beauty. Do you place his/her value only on your will? Look at the arts, etc.

You imply that our value to God is dependant on “what we do.” Again, if we are children of God, does he not value us for our mere existence? Do you have children? If not, can’t you at least conceive of value in that child because of his/her birth not based on his/her mistakes or “good behavior?”

You ask why I “dont find it virtous, or righteous, or good(in a moral way), why? [sic]” because it is an inanimate object sir. It is a non-moral agent. You are grasping here.

We are on different pages because you have an underlying belief in your deity’s anthropomorphisms.

Water is needed for us to survive. Note Jesus’ parallel to being “living water.” Why do you think He made that comparison? As water sustains life…

Anyway, Serg. You are missing vital foundations in your post. You might want to re-read what you are trying to say and try again.

Thanks,

Dr. T