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06-05-2008, 02:10 PM
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I think most people have thought about having sex at some point during their youth. It doesnt necesarilly mean you will do it, but of course you are going to think about it, its natural progression. I cannot believe people can get to a point of marriage without even thinking about what sex is like. If anyone says they have they are either a robot or sub human!!!
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I think that you are missing the point. To think it a let it pass is one thing. To dwell on it or act on the thought is a completely different thing.
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06-05-2008, 02:11 PM
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It's normal to be tempted, but acting on it is different. Of course everyone wonders what sex will be like.
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06-05-2008, 02:30 PM
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As these sublimation of messages enter our thoughts, as Skale remarked, Therefore let virtue garnish our thoughts and our actions be good... Or tell ourselves; "I will keep all of GODs commandments."
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06-05-2008, 02:45 PM
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great imput all of you...but in relation more to the main question, obviously if an endowed member participated in intercouse, would probley be xd i assume? but if you dont let virtue garnish your thoughs etc, engage in gateway sins, is the punishment the same?
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06-05-2008, 02:48 PM
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Let me caution in not revealing some ones act here upon this forum or seek an answer here for sexual misdeed but seek out your Bishop for the appropriate answer.
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06-05-2008, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tou08si
great imput all of you...but in relation more to the main question, obviously if an endowed member participated in intercouse, would probley be xd i assume? but if you dont let virtue garnish your thoughs etc, engage in gateway sins, is the punishment the same?
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The bishop would council you in an interview. Impure thoughts and lesser sins are met with lesser consequences such as removal of privileges to partake of the sacrament, pass the sacrament, administering priesthood blessing, etc. More severe consequences can range from revocation of temple recommend, disfellowshipping, etc. Your bishop can advise you better, though.
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06-05-2008, 03:52 PM
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Excommunication is not a weapon or punishment. It is a tool (step) of repentance.
If one has committed adultery lets say, confessed it and is truly seeking repentance, then excommunication washes away the sin.
It cleans the slate so that you can start fresh, from the beginning with re-baptism and working towards restoring your covenants.
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06-05-2008, 04:05 PM
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It depends. I've had a couple friends who were excommunicated for pre-marital sex, but it seemed to be because they let it continue for a long time and kept doing that after confessing. They made their way back and are stronger than ever.
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06-05-2008, 04:14 PM
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It comes back to the individual repentance, sincerity, and humbleness in seeking to address the wrong that was committed. It may not result in excommunication.
You need to remember, the handbook is the last course of action in seeking guidance but a bishop needs to know the Savior's will with that individual. Seeking the Spirit guidance is his first priority after an initial interview. But at this point, speculating on something like this is best left to local Bishops and Spirit of Discernment.
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