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Old 06-18-2008, 10:33 AM
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Pornography is the number one problem I now encountered in the Church when members seek help.

Some suggestive helps here: anything that is a sin usually will start with a thought, whether by you or by those across the veil [minions of Lucifer]. In dwelling on the thought, eventually lead to an action. So the question is what to do with that thought? Immediately, sing a church tune when a sinful thought enters the mind. Or - immediately tell your self, I WILL OBEY ALL THE LORD'S COMMANDMENTS. Or - do something that can easily erase the thought by work or reading. I am sure you may have something that can help you with this issue and see you are already pushing to cleanse the mortal flesh.

If the above fails, meaning it is continuous, immediately go to bent knee prayers and ask FATHER to help you to overcome it. Sincerity and humbleness brings tears to the Spirit and easily provokes the Spirit.

Now, you need to avoid anything on TV, web base, magazines, or anything that is suggestive, which may weaken you to dwell on those thoughts. Avoid it at all cost.

Create a focus gospel desire that will require study the scriptures, ponderous time frame, prayers in seeking the desire to be answered by GOD. Make worthy gospel goals to bring back that spirituality to your spirit, There are others I suspect your bishop has already stated.

However, I commend you in seeking help and acknowledging your weakness. It reveals that you are seeking to perfect those weaknesses.
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Hi there gentle people of this wonderful new forum, i just found today.

As you may be wondering about the title, i will fill you in.

Im excommunicated from the church. But i want to get re-baptized and lead a full member life again. I want to go back to the temple. I want to sit in sacrement meeting and actually feel like i belong there.

I spoke to my Bishop about this and was told that, as long as i come to church every Sunday, i should be able to get re-baptized after about 2 years.

Well its been over 2 years and im still not re-baptized.

Reason is, the job i do means im working every Sunday. Sometimes day shift, sometimes night shift. This means that i should be able to go, every 2 weeks. The problem is, when i first got the job, i wasnt used to night shift, so slept all day. Ive now got it sorted and am able to get to church once every 2 weeks. But because of the way things worked in the beginning, the church see's me as less active, and i need to go 3 weeks in a row, in order to be classed as active.

So what happens if i manage to go 3 weeks in a row? Well, i have to be active for 2 years. And that 2 years starts from scratch, everytime i become "less active", so meaning that, non of the last 2 years count towards my 2 years active. That means, that if i happen to be ill on the week im supposed to go to church and cant go, im back to being inactive and have to start from scratch again, since i missed 3 weeks in a row.

I though that i could explain this to my Bishop and to get alittle help, or to prove myself some other way, But i was told no. It has to be this way or no way.

So although i love the church and believe in it with all my heart. Im not a member and probably never will be. I hope that you can allow me to be here and participate in your discussions. I will understand, if you wish to put restrictions on me and will gladly follow them. All i want is to be is part of the church and to talk to members. As i said, i will follow any restrictions you wish to impose.

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That doesnt seem fair atall cosidering I know several people who's work requires them to work sundays or be sleeping from shifts. Yet they're not ex'ed. Seems like a double standard to me.
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That doesnt seem fair atall cosidering I know several people who's work requires them to work sundays or be sleeping from shifts. Yet they're not ex'ed. Seems like a double standard to me.
His excommunication was not for being unable to attend every Sunday.
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That doesnt seem fair atall cosidering I know several people who's work requires them to work sundays or be sleeping from shifts. Yet they're not ex'ed. Seems like a double standard to me.
Thats not why i was ex'ed. It was adultery. Not being able to attend church is whats stopping me getting re-baptized. If people got ex'ed for not attended church, there would be no one there. ;p
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It that was the case, I would be excommunicated for not attending my home ward. LOL
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If people got ex'ed for not attended church, there would be no one there. ;p
Isn't that the truth.
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Could you imagine if a church was like that. You would go on Sunday, look around. Hey guys, wheres the Bishop/Minister/Priest? Oh, he wasnt at church last week, so we kicked him out. Yeah, he tried to say he was ill, but thats no excuse. From next week, if you dont bow your head at a particular angle, your out. There will of course be someone walking around with a ruler to check. Oh, but he will be kicked out the week after, because, HE didnt have his head bowed at the right angle, when he was checking that everyone elses head was. And so on. Hehehe.
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Gotta love humor...that was a good one.
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Could you imagine if a church was like that. You would go on Sunday, look around. Hey guys, wheres the Bishop/Minister/Priest? Oh, he wasnt at church last week, so we kicked him out. Yeah, he tried to say he was ill, but thats no excuse. From next week, if you dont bow your head at a particular angle, your out. There will of course be someone walking around with a ruler to check. Oh, but he will be kicked out the week after, because, HE didnt have his head bowed at the right angle, when he was checking that everyone elses head was. And so on. Hehehe.

hahaha YIKES! I'm certainly glad it is NOT like that!
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Perhaps the time of trying your patience will also be a time of you being able to grow stronger and to combat your weaknesses. None of us are perfect. That's why we have repentance.

Don't give up and I'm sure you will be rewarded.
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