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Old 06-08-2009, 01:11 PM
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I thought the LDS church would not baptize a person if their spouse did not give their blessing.
Well I am fortunate enough that she said she would not stand in my way as to her statement that everyone's relationship with God is their own and some people need that and she understands that. She also feels that comes from my long time participation being involved in churches since i was a child. She never really had that.
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I am aware of what is given in the CHI. Maureen, CHI is a guideline and some given guidelines can be overruled. I am assuming here, that the missionaries had spoken to there Mission President, and it was approved by the Mission President for him in being baptized without the consent of the spouse. The Mission President is the final word and not the book. Did that answer the question?
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I hope that she will come around and join me at some point. It may also help that she has a few friends that are members as well, but they don't go to our ward. I really think she would like it if she would try. Most of the things she says makes her feel uncomfortable in church do not happen in the LDS church. As I, she really doesn't like the "show" that alot of churches put on at their services.
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The online version of the CHI that I have read says:

This is from the 1999 CHI.
The Church Handbook of Instruction is a copyrighted work that belongs to the LDS Church. Those who posted it online are breaking copyright law, and those who use it are aiding in breaking copyright law. I would hope that all honest people would avoid such things.
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The Church Handbook of Instruction is a copyrighted work that belongs to the LDS Church. Those who posted it online are breaking copyright law, and those who use it are aiding in breaking copyright law. I would hope that all honest people would avoid such things.
Where is this online version posted?
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There is none....even the last version was removed from many websites do to what Vort stated.
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The Church Handbook of Instruction is a copyrighted work that belongs to the LDS Church. Those who posted it online are breaking copyright law, and those who use it are aiding in breaking copyright law. I would hope that all honest people would avoid such things.
I believe it depends on where they posted it. If the server was based in a country where that copyright law didn't apply, to my knowledge, no law has been broken. And only a little part of it was posted here, so no law was broken here even by American law.
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There is none....even the last version was removed from many websites do to what Vort stated.
There is a copy on wikileaks. I won't post the link because this forum could then be in trouble as it is hosted on an American server.
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Is it the 2006 version? They were told to remove it. They complied in the past but who knows when someone else violates the law in publishing the complete guide.
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Is it the 2006 version? They were told to remove it. They complied in the past but who knows when someone else violates the law in publishing the complete guide.
Both 1999 and 2006 versions are on there. Interestingly, they have multiple download locations across the globe. The church could theoretically get them to remove it from their US and UK servers, and possibly some of the others, but I doubt all of them due to lack of copyright law in those countries. That's how the pirate bay are still operating after all these years.
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