Wife not attending baptism

[Islander]

Originally Posted by pam

I have heard though that a spouse' approval for endowments is required. Is that true?

No. The endowment is an individual choice for an adult.

[Karen]

Congratulations to you on your decision to be baptized! I understand people's fears or dislike of 'organized religion' as they know it, since they often will associate the misuse of power, things improperly done in the name of religion and other apostate practices with 'org religion.' In a sense, these are smart thoughts. They only represent, though, the "apostasy", one half the picture. If you can see that as common ground, it may help you continue to have the Spirit work in you as you approach that subject. I would applaud anyone who recognizes that org religion holds no benefit there, if practices are apostate. In terms of the person-to-person relationship with God, it's true that our relationship to God is intimate and our application of His word individual--again, common ground--but perhaps eventually, as the door of her heart opens, you can also share the fact that He is also a God of order, that He Himself chose to organize His Church with apostles, priests, teachers, deacons, while on the earth, so that we could have fellowship, serve, and be instructed in doctrine.

I appreciated the questions about spousal consent, and Pam and others' comments (and Pam, love your quotes ).. I have to say that I checked on this once for a friend of mine who was recently baptized, and it also appears in Preach My Gospel. While your spouse may not agree with your decision, they can still consent to your moving forward. If there is a serious conflict there, you may want to address that with your local leaders. It sounds like they are fully aware of your situation. On the upside, my friend's wife was absolutely against his learning about the Church initially, and ended up attending his baptism and is now studying the teachings.

All the best,

[bmy-]

Sorry to hear that Afterwards.. please try to spend some time with just her (no after party). It will help.

[Mirium]

My husband refused to attend my baptism but it was not required for me to gain consent from him.

When it came to being endowed in the Temple the Bishop reqired me to obtain a letter of consent from my husband before I could go.

He doesn't like me being a member of the church but would never stop me going. In fact I think he is far more tolerant than I would have been had roles been reversed.

[Maureen]

Vort said:

The Church Handbook of Instruction is a copyrighted work that belongs to the LDS Church. Those who posted it online are breaking copyright law, and those who use it are aiding in breaking copyright law. I would hope that all honest people would avoid such things.

The 18 words that I quoted are allowed under the Fair Use doctrine. I have quoted other items from the CHI before, I believe longer than 18 words, and this is the first time anyone has mentioned copyright infringement.

[Hemidakota]

It was not the copyright of the few words Maureen that I feel Vort was stating but for the website in publishing the complete work of the CHI is an issue with the church. Even the mighty Wiki god had to remove the CHI from its website.

Someone has made the case already, as long there is no intent to make a monetary residue from this posting from the book and then I highly doubt the church would even considering persecuting anyone to do so. It is a matter of the web owner for publishing the CHI without the consent of the church.

Now, if I am wrong, I am sure someone from the legal side will correct this statement.

[Vort]

Originally Posted by Maureen

Vort said: The 18 words that I quoted are allowed under the Fair Use doctrine. I have quoted other items from the CHI before, I believe longer than 18 words, and this is the first time anyone has mentioned copyright infringement.

I never suggested you broke copyright law, Maureen. The web site you mentioned is doing so, unless they happen to be hosted in a non-copyright-recognizing country. By using such a site, you have (perhaps inadvertently) taken advantage of their illegal activity.

[talisyn]

mlbrowninwa, congrats on the baptism, you will be blessed

My advice is to be an example. People will be watching you, especially your kids. They were gonna do that anyways lol, children are good at spotting parental inconsistencies. I think that as your family gets use to the spirit you'll bring into your house things will relax a bit more. Be patient, be kind, and remember you're doing the right thing, and sometimes that can be hard.

[bytebear]

My advice is to introduce your wife to the social aspects of the church, and if she wants to venture toward the spiritual she can. I think just having her meet the ward members in a casual, non-threatening environment will do wonders to her preconceived notions on religion. Once she understands that the members are loving and friendly regardless of her interest in the church, she will be more open to it all.

[Moksha]

Originally Posted by mlbrowninwa

I hope that she will come around and join me at some point. It may also help that she has a few friends that are members as well, but they don't go to our ward. I really think she would like it if she would try. Most of the things she says makes her feel uncomfortable in church do not happen in the LDS church. As I, she really doesn't like the "show" that alot of churches put on at their services.

It is important for her to be reaffirmed that the Church will not come between the two of you. It is also important that she not feel pressured to join the Church or be needled by any Church members for her not being a member.