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06-14-2009, 07:05 PM
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That probably would be best, but I'm not to worried about it. I'm still pretty young and don't feel it is necessary. Not that I wouldn't recommend it, but for me, I don't think I need it.
As for the WoW, I would disagree it is against it. It definatly is not habit forming in any way. I am a lover of food (which can be against the word of wisdom) and it is a great sacrifice to go on so little of it.
Thank you for your concern though.
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06-14-2009, 07:07 PM
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The WOW isn't just about things that are addictive.
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06-14-2009, 07:16 PM
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I agree, but it would be quite a stretch to say that HCG is against the WoW.
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06-14-2009, 07:33 PM
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Notice, I said it's against the principles in the WoW. Just my opinion...just like I think that whole Adkins diet thing is against the WoW...
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06-14-2009, 07:37 PM
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From lds.org concerning diets.
On Dietary Recommendations
Although we often consider the verses teaching us to avoid alcohol, tobacco, and hot drinks to be the most important parts of the Word of Wisdom, the larger portion of this revelation is actually devoted to teaching us what we should consume: wheat, other grains, fruits, and vegetables. Grains are mentioned repeatedly in this revelation, with special mention of “wheat for man” in verse 17.
“And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome herbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
“Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with prudence and thanksgiving.
“Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;
“And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.
“All grain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, …
“All grain is good for the food of man; as also the fruit of the vine; …
“Nevertheless, wheat for man” (D&C 89:10–14, 16–17).
What does medical science teach us about this kind of diet? Certainly all kinds of diets are being recommended by one seeming authority or another. The diets in fashion change from year to year. Consistently over the years, however, the evidence favors a diet in keeping with the recommendations contained in the Word of Wisdom. The medical community widely accepts that a low-fat diet consisting mostly of complex carbohydrates found in whole grains, fruits, and vegetables, along with limited amounts of nuts and high-protein foods like low-fat meats, is associated with lower incidences of disease and a longer life.
The benefits of this type of diet are likely related to many different interrelated nutritional factors. For example, such a diet is naturally low in fat. I recently attended the American Society of Clinical Oncology meetings, where I heard research presented on postmenopausal women who had undergone treatment for early-stage breast cancer. Women who followed a low-fat diet, which was remarkably similar to the foods recommended in the Word of Wisdom, were less likely to have their breast cancer return after treatment. 8
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I know this is about dietary recommendations but I still think applicable.
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I think that is great advice from LDS.org. If most people would follow those principles, the world would be a much healthier place. I try to follow that as best as possible, but still do not see anything wrong with additional diets.
Thanks for the clarification Beefche. I should have read your post a bit more carefully.
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I also excercise every day but hit a wall at about 210 lbs (I'm 6"3), so I've tried several diets. I like Fit for life and Body for life, but have found a few other diets that I love. Alli is the only FDA approved diet pill that I LOVE! You take one pill (I take up to 3) with every meal, and what it does is bind to the fat in your food. Every pill takes about 25% of the fat out. So when you make mistakes like candy bars and such, just pop a few extra. It will prevent your body from taking in a lot of the fat, and it will also give you motivation not to eat bad any more (I won't go into details, but the fat has got to get out somehow).
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This is exactly what doctors will tell you NOT to do. This is dangerous and could cost you your life.
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Tomorrow I'm starting an extreme diet that would also be beneficial to you as well. It's called HCG. It's a hormone found in women during pregnancy that you inject IM daily for 23 days. It boasts of 1 lb a day weight loss (not muscle or water weight, but pure fat), something I would be VERY skeptical about, but have over a half a dozen friends who have done it and lost between 1-2 lbs daily. You get on a 500 calorie a day diet, and the HCG keeps your body from going into starvation mode. It's a VERY STRICT diet, so much so that if you even touch certain oils, use certain shampoos or toothpastes, you will not lose any weight and possibly gain weight. It sounds crazy and I didn't believe it, but since I've seen it with my own eyes in my friends who were on it, I have no choice but to believe it.
HCG was created by a Doctor in Italy and is prescribed by Doctors for a chunk of change, around 300 dollars. I got 2 23 day doses for 80 here:Buy Hcg Pregnyl Online Now
Again, I would never even think about ordering drugs online, but all my friends got there HCG from this site as well with no problem.
Anyway, because you can only eat certain foods that equal to 500 calories, and not even touch others, you would have no choice but to stay away from the bad foods. Otherwise, there would be major weight gain.
Oh, and the first two days of the diet, you are supposed to eat as much and as bad as you can before the 500 calorie diet starts. I can't weight for that part! Cheesecake here I come!
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You won't lose any weight on this diet because of the Hcg...you'll lose weight because you are only consuming 500 calories per day (the average person requires about 2,000). This is essentially starving yourself. The problem is, your body will literally eat your muscle to feed itself when you do this, and not just your fat. This is a stupid stupid stupid thing to do. I don't think I stressed that enough. This is a STUPID thing to do.
Do not do this to yourself. This is extremely unhealthy and no credible doctor would ever recommend this. The best way to lose weight is what physicians have been recommending for years: increase your activity and reduce your intake of calories. Healthy weight loss consists of 2-3 pounds per week. Any more and you risk doing damage to your digestive, muscular, skeletal, and endocrine systems.
Miracle diets and fad diets are almost never what they are made out to be. Eat a balanced diet (balanced can mean over 3-4 days, not necessarily every day) and get plenty of exercise and you'll find yourself losing weight and improving your health.
Never, ever, ever take a diet pill or medicinal treatment without the supervision of your physician.
I recommend you talk to your physician, and you may also want to check out an LDS Addiction Recovery Program in your area.
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I'm not going to tell you not to do it, but if you do, be very careful. It can be very dangerous, even for people who seem to be healthy, even for a short period of time. Also, at 500 calories/day, maybe that's where the weight loss is coming from, not necessarily the pills.
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I also worry that at only 500 calories at day, there might be more muscle lost than fat.
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