The Kolob Theorem: A Mormon's View of God's Starry Universe

[Vort]

Originally Posted by Gillebre

When it comes to someone's theories of science or how the universe is, I've come to learn that the only way to be certain of any facts in the matter is to counsel with Heavenly Father on the matter. He's the only one I trust.

Interesting practice. I must admit that all through school, it never occured to me to pray for divine spiritual verification of the mathematics, chemistry, physics, biology, or engineering I was learning. Doing so would have seemed to me, I think, an attempt to misuse a divine gift, like praying over which can of beans to buy.

[Gillebre]

I was referring mostly to obscure things that scientists (or whomever else) can't agree upon. Like evolution, the Big Bang, creation of the earth, etc...

[Hemidakota]

There are truths within this book that may surprise you. Abraham had seen more than what is written in the Pearl of great Price that is not written. There are other non-canonized wittings that illustrate what Professor Nibley discovered what was shown to this special prophet due to his desire to know what the previous fathers knew.

Gillebre, you are correct. As we advanced our spiritual knowledge, we should rely on that spirit or the Godhead and not the counsel of men. When we have that desire to be like Enoch, Abraham, Moses, or even Joseph Smith, and live the will of the FATHER, those truths will begin to unravel before our eyes and will see the truths that are hidden from the world and the church [due to the spiritual immaturity].

[Bookmeister]

Just two thoughts:

1. I thought there was a black hole at the center of our galaxy?

2. Coffee table? Hot Chocolate table? I thought it was a foot rest for the couch.

[HiJolly]

Originally Posted by Bookmeister

Just two thoughts:

1. I thought there was a black hole at the center of our galaxy?

I believe we have found reasonable evidence that most if not all galaxies have a 'black hole' at their centers. Pretty interesting.


HiJolly

[Gillebre]

and don't the scriptures say that Kolob governs all things? What if it governs all things by gravity (ie holding them in place/orbit/whatever)?

And I don't recall any scripture or Prophet declaring that it couldn't be a black hole. I mean, if you think about it...what has enough power to hold a galaxy in place? Every outlying star, planet, asteroid, and everything else is held by gravity. Something's at the center which is keeping everything in place - and we know that it's some incredibly awesome force...and science tells us that (super-massive) black holes are just about the only things capable of such a feat (from what I learned, anyway).

Just food for thought. This book was a very interesting read. I enjoyed taking what the author related to heart and pondering it out.

[Hemidakota]

How do the creators receive materials if not by some form of exchange conduit? Hince....BLACKHOLES. Yes?

[Elphaba]

This kind of nonsense is one of the reasons people look at Mormonism with a skeptical eye.

Many of these completely uncientific "doctrines" are taught, by those not called to do so, and soon these teachers attract adherents, whose bizarre beliefs, based in absurd speculation, become the center of attention by potential converts, people not strong in the gospel, and especially the media. Face it, if there are adhrents to this nonsense, it IS a news story.

I also assure you, if a true scientist were to read this book, it would not only not be taken seriously--it would also leave the impression that Latter-day Saints are a fringe, cult-like religion with bizarre beliefs about the universe that have no basis in fact.

Another thread's title was "Why do people think badly of the Church"? (I do not know if this is verbatim, but I think it is.)

This nonsense is one of the reasons people think badly of the Church.

Elphaba

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

Originally Posted by Elphaba

I also assure you, if a true scientist were to read this book, it would not only not be taken seriously--it would also leave the impression that Latter-day Saints are a fringe, cult-like religion with bizarre beliefs about the universe that have no basis in fact.

Oh, you don't have to be a scientist to come to that impression. Take a look at Amazon.com's one star reviews of the book.

I'd be ok if the book was called "One Mormon's View" instead of "A Mormon's View", but whatever.

LM

[Gillebre]

If you're referring to the 1-star review that I'm thinking of...then I would suggest you find more quality reviews, and less-assuming reviews.