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I bought this book for my husband several months ago and he finally finished it. This is a huge accomplishment to say the least. So I figured if it was good enough for my hisband to finish then I would love it and I was right.

This man is wonderful anyway but his book is even better. He writes the same way he talks and you feel like you are listeneing to an old friend tell you stories. he is very fresh and candid and he takes the scriptires and applies them to life in ways I had never seen an LDS person do.

I watch him Sunday every week. he is the pastor at Lakewood COmmunity Church. I recommend his book and his show to everyone.
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I bought this book for my husband several months ago and he finally finished it. This is a huge accomplishment to say the least. So I figured if it was good enough for my hisband to finish then I would love it and I was right.

This man is wonderful anyway but his book is even better. He writes the same way he talks and you feel like you are listeneing to an old friend tell you stories. he is very fresh and candid and he takes the scriptires and applies them to life in ways I had never seen an LDS person do.

I watch him Sunday every week. he is the pastor at Lakewood COmmunity Church. I recommend his book and his show to everyone.
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So glad to hear it, Prend. I was considering buying it myself, and think I now will. I also like his sermons. I have a hankering sometimes for a more motivational sermon . . and when I do occassion on his broadcast I'm very happy that it is so relevant. I thought I wouldn't like him, but how can you not!?!
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I bought this book for my husband several months ago and he finally finished it. This is a huge accomplishment to say the least. So I figured if it was good enough for my hisband to finish then I would love it and I was right.* This man is wonderful anyway but his book is even better. He writes the same way he talks and you feel like you are listeneing to an old friend tell you stories. he is very fresh and candid and he takes the scriptires and applies them to life in ways I had never seen an LDS person do. I watch him Sunday every week. he is the pastor at Lakewood COmmunity Church. I recommend his book and his show to everyone.
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Did you know that some find Joel Osteen controversial? See the following "friendly fire" hit piece (my term for fundamentalists attacks on Christian ministries)

http://cultlink.com/ar/osteen.htm

As a brief summary for those who do not like to traffic negative websites, Osteen is accused of the following:

1. Living large. He has a $1.25 million home. News flash: If Houston's like my town of Seattle, that means he probably bought it for $4-500K less than 10 years ago, and that the place is basically upper middle class--not extravagant for the pastor of a 20,000+ membership church.

2. Preaching prosperity. Granted, dessert should not be the mainstay of one's diet. However, for new believers, and for old believers brought up on legalistic "God the Hammer" type teachings, hearing of God's good intentions for his people is certainly a breath of fresh air.

3. Preaching secular self-help techniques wrapped up in Christian jargon. Actually, we can call this "robbing the Egyptians." Just as the Israelites took gifts from their neighbors as they departed Israel, there is nothing wrong with Christians taking truths that secular studies have come across, and using them to bless God's people.

Bottom-line: Praise God that he has blessed you with his truths, given from the one of his servants who happens to minister under a different flag.
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Yeah - I see him on the tube.

I try to avoid stuff written or sold by slick televangelists who wear $125 Hugo Boss ties and serve up a porridge of postive mental attitude sprinkled with mass market gospel-lite.

Repeat after me: Money loves me. Money loves to be in my pocket. I see a whole mountain of money coming toward me.
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I'm sorry you feel that way...this man was what brought my husband back to the church bc it gave him hope that there are still people that can think and use their brains and not stand up in a robot voice and say "I know the church is true..."

Judge them by their fruits...he is a good man and does good works.

Again, I'm sorry you feel that way. But as for me and my house he is a breath of fresh air.
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I'm sorry you feel that way...this man was what brought my husband back to the church bc it gave him hope that there are still people that can think and use their brains and not stand up in a robot voice and say "I know the church is true..."
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I almost don't know what to say, almost... so it wasn't the gospel that brought your husband back? Nor the influence of the Holy Ghost, nor the love and example of his wife, or the real-life example of men and women he knows and respects, nor even the exertion of his own good self, but rather a positive mental attitude book by a rich TV preacher that did it?

That's odd.

How is it that an Evangelical showman showed ya'll that there are people besides the "I-know-the-Church-is-true" types around? Don't you know any thinking Mormons / Christians yourself?
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Where do you live? Minidoka Idaho?

Maybe it's the kind of people you hang out with, however Besides American Jews, American Mormons are the best educated large demographic group in the country. While there being Mormon doesn't automatically make you smarter than the general population, and I know plenty on Mormons and non-Mormons who are unquestioningly along for the ride, inside the LDS community there are a great many bright, insightful, intellectual, reasonable, and faithful saints.

People tend to congregate with other people of similar attitudes and interests. Maybe you need a new circle of friends.
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I guess that eliminate you then...
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