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Prisonchaplin...
The Rapture is nowhere found in the Bible...Neither is the Trinity. Both are the works of men...not God...
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OK, this I can work with. Yes it is, yes it is, yes God used men to explicate these teachings, but God was behind the teachings. 
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Teachings????...bwahahahaha...That is laughable.
The Trinity was created out of the Council of Nicea...
The Rapture is a 19th/20th Century creation...
NO WHERE in the NT will you find the use of either word
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04-21-2008, 11:46 AM
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I truly remember Apostle Lan Grand Richard usage of that word "Rapture' more than a handful. LOL
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Teachings????...bwahahahaha...That is laughable.
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It's easier to laugh at the teachings of others than to try to engage them in intelligent discourse.
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The Trinity was created out of the Council of Nicea...
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If I had time, I'd find it...but early church Fathers wrote about God as three persons long before Nicea. And, of course, those of us who teach it, explain it with Scripture, not ancient church council writings.
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The Rapture is a 19th/20th Century creation...
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The belief that will be caught up in the air to meet Jesus comes from 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, written in the first century AD, not the 19th. As for the full-blown premillenial pre-tribulation rapture teaching--was it created in the 19th century, or RESTORED???
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NO WHERE in the NT will you find the use of either word
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So? There is no internet in the NT either, yet here we are.
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04-24-2008, 01:16 PM
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It's easier to laugh at the teachings of others than to try to engage them in intelligent discourse.
Actually...I don't have time to go back and find the original post, but I'm sure you've taken this out of context...
If I had time, I'd find it...but early church Fathers wrote about God as three persons long before Nicea. And, of course, those of us who teach it, explain it with Scripture, not ancient church council writings.
You feel free to find all the time in the world...cause for every early Christian supporting your false position...I can find one or two supporting my correct position. Additionally, by the time of Nicea, most early Christians supporting my position had been excommunicate, banished or murdered by folks supporting your position.
So? There is no internet in the NT either, yet here we are.
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You're oh so correct...BTW...Should I laugh with you...or at you for this really ludicris remark....bwahahahahahahahahaha
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Hey, skip...
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Teachings????...bwahahahaha...That is laughable.
The Trinity was created out of the Council of Nicea...
The Rapture is a 19th/20th Century creation...
NO WHERE in the NT will you find the use of either word
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Golden rule, MDSkip. Play nice!
HiJolly
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Golden rule, MDSkip. Play nice!
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If that's all you have to offer...as my cousins in Utah County would exclaim
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04-24-2008, 01:45 PM
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Trinity is just another word for Godhead and that is all over the bible [godhead].
Rapture is a term used for years and years and years and years to speak of the second coming. Come on guys what is so hard with that. Nothing more nothing less :]
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It seems to me that this thread has gotten away from the original intent of the poster. Whether one believes indeed in the rapture or second coming, the fact remains that as Christians we do believe that Jesus will return one day and prior to his return, certain prophiesed events must take place. In my opinion, both these words accurately describe actions that will take place at that time.
Def. second coming
1. [n] - (Christian theology) the reappearance of Jesus as judge for the Last Judgment
rap·ture (rpchr)
n.
1. The state of being transported by a lofty emotion; ecstasy.
2. An expression of ecstatic feeling. Often used in the plural.
3. The transporting of a person from one place to another, especially to heaven.
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