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04-29-2008, 10:49 AM
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How easy is it ????
When and how do I get to see Jesus face to face?
How do I get to heaven?
What does it take to know Jesus Christ and have Him as my Lord ?
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04-29-2008, 10:56 AM
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04-29-2008, 11:04 AM
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I am looking for more of a personal testimony from people instead of being sent to read books .......
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04-29-2008, 11:28 AM
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Interesting read Dr T.
Hizwife, why would want something like this when the basic cannot be adhered too? Through our faith, works [actions], and trials, the greater rewards comes in receiving the Godhood personally.
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04-29-2008, 11:36 AM
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HizWife,
Thank you for your great questions.
We send you to readings, because that is how we learned! By reading! We want to give you the same privilege and joy we had.
A resource you can use to hear people's personal words is right here on the lds.net website, in our testimonies section. Each of these stories is people's own, personal, true experiences, and I think you will enjoy them.
Testimonies » LDS Mormon Network
I think if you wish to begin a journey where you meet God, I personally think that the beginning is to start to pray. Pray to your Father in heaven in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, and tell him these questions. Pray every day. That is the beginning.
Then the second thing is to begin to read and study and think about the scriptures -- the Bible and the Book of Mormon especially.
If you are doing those two things, then let us know, and we can give you some further steps if you like.
I personally am upheld and preserved by my Savior every day. He knows me, helps me, loves me -- he never forsakes me. I am very grateful for that.
Happy seeking!
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04-29-2008, 12:00 PM
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How easy is it? It isn't, but it is worth it. When and How? By the way you approach Him, through prayer, study, and allowing him through the scriptures to touch your heart. The when part is a little tougher, for we don't know when he is coming, nor do we know when we will go behind the veil, but I can tell you when I have been in the temple, I have felt his presence in that room with me as has my wife. The feelings you have when you read, ponder, and testify of his divinity, are the times when you know he is living and touching your heart. What does it take to know Him? For me it has been to open my mind, the center of my mind, to his teachings, his promises, my needs as a mortal, my desires for eternity and to learn of Him. By desiring to please Him, as a child wants to please their father, and placing absolute trust in His word I believe I do know Him, and He knows me. Does this sound silly from a 65 year old man that 10 years ago didn't know Him? I hope you know what I say, is for me, true.
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04-29-2008, 12:13 PM
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Hemi:
You lost me as to what cannot be adhered to.............. Salvation by grace can be adhered to. it was adhered to when Jesus hung on that old rugged cross, right ?
Grace as defined by Websters means mercy; clemency; pardon: an act of grace, the freely given, unmerited favor and love of God.
If grace is freely given, how much works does it take to earn something that was freely given?
According to Eph 2:8-9 8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast......
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Since the bible is the true, innerrant word of Jesus Christ, then how can we work hard enough to gain entrance into His kingdom ?
Deuteronomy 6:4 Or The Lord is our God, the Lord alone (that is, the only one)
Isaiah 43:10
10 “ You are My witnesses,” says the LORD,
“ And My servant whom I have chosen,
That you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me
God is Triune and He exists eternally as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19). No one can achieve the status of God, only He is holy (1 Samuel 2:2). We can only be made holy in God's sight through faith in Him (1 Corinthians 1:2). Jesus is the only begotten Son of God (John 3:16) and is the only one ever to have lived a sinless, blameless life, who now has the highest place of honor in Heaven (Hebrews 7:26). Jesus and God are one in essence, Jesus being the only One existing before physical birth (John 1:1-8, 8:56). Jesus gave Himself to us as a sacrifice, and God raised Him from the dead, and one day everyone will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (Philippians 2:6-11). Jesus tells us it is impossible to get to Heaven by our own works, only with faith in Him is it possible (Matthew 19:26). And many will not choose Him. “You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose the easy way” (Matthew 7:13). We all deserve eternal punishment for our sins, but God's infinite love and grace has allowed us a way out. “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:23).
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What works must I do to become a LDS follower ?
Thanks for the websites and reading materials.......
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04-29-2008, 12:24 PM
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Prayer was where I started from - and I was praying to a God I wasn't even sure was there!
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HW, it is not a book just four points. Read them if u chose.
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Hizwife: let me clarify something first, have you personally seen the Savior, face-to-face? The answer is no. Why do I know that? It is a written revelation [See D&C], that no one will see the Savior without first receiving the ordinance of baptism, gift of the Holy Ghost, and your temple ordinances. For Joseph, there was no gospel, no true church, and no temple. After his vision, the Lord made it clear. Now, you can hear the voice of the Savior prior to baptism but not of the FATHER at this point prior to above mentioned.
Next, no one will see the Savior face without the Holy Spirit making it happen. When a person receives the Holy Spirit as a First Comforter, through endless trials of faith and being strictly obedience to HIS will, knowing that individual will not turn from what is given, it is up to the Lord's choosing of His flock, who shall become members of the Church of the First Born in this mortality and not by our decision. Again, the Savior chooses us. Sounds strange? Not yet. It is the Holy Spirit, who will bring us to both the FATHER and the Savior, face-to-face, in preparation of having that vision as Joseph received.
If I am wrong, then prove it otherwise. I for one know of this and can testify of it.
Adhering to the basic principles of Gospel is what I am referring too. If you cannot meet the simple things of life, the greater will not be applicable in your life.
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