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Old 05-17-2008, 02:40 PM
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I have no idea why your christian friends would do this. The bible tells us to not get drunk. I have gone to evangelical churches and they do preach against it.
Define drunkeness?

Is drunkeness the state of slurring speech and staggering while walking while still having the mental faculty to be respectful, careful, courteous and dignified.

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Is drunkeness the state of defiling oneself and others?
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Define drunkeness?

Is drunkeness the state of slurring speech and staggering while walking while still having the mental faculty to be respectful, careful, courteous and dignified.

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Is drunkeness the state of defiling oneself and others?
maybe both of what you said.. do you have a concordance? Look up what the bible say's on the topic of drunkeness. The bible is pretty clear on this topic. And even though you might not find smoking listed out in the bible..our bodies are the temple of the Lord and we are not to defile it. This would include things like smoking, overeating etc..
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Alcohol isn't a poison any more than eating copious amounts of sugar can give you diabetes, or drinking gallons of milk will give you heart disease.
You are wrong here, alcohol is a poison. It destroys the body. It not only kills brain cells it does irreversible damage to nearly every organ in the body.

Even in moderation it still does the same irreversible damage.
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You are wrong here, alcohol is a poison. It destroys the body. It not only kills brain cells it does irreversible damage to nearly every organ in the body.

Even in moderation it still does the same irreversible damage.
I think this person was saying that the alcohol is a poison but so is sugar and those other things..and they are correct!
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I think this person was saying that the alcohol is a poison but so is sugar and those other things..and they are correct!
My interpretation of the statement is that alcohol is no more of a poison than sugar and milk if it is used in moderation.

I am saying that even in moderation alcohol is and always will be a poison.

Used in moderation sugar is not a poison, neither is milk.
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I have even heard that these Christians have alcohol in their Communion chalice. What is going on with that?

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I have even heard that these Christians have alcohol in their Communion chalice. What is going on with that?

wow..what church does that? I have never heard of that and I have been in lots of churches.
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My interpretation of the statement is that alcohol is no more of a poison than sugar and milk if it is used in moderation.

I am saying that even in moderation alcohol is and always will be a poison.

Used in moderation sugar is not a poison, neither is milk.
you are right.i think I read it wrong..haa..but I agree alcohol is a poison no matter how you try to cover it. Athough some docters are saying a glass of red wine is good for you.
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Why do some Christians think it's okay to drink alcohol and even get drunk? My friend goes to an Evangelical church and she drinks. My boyfriend is an Anglican and he drinks. Why the difference from other Christian groups, such as the LDS?
I guess for the same reason that some people have unhealthy food consumption habits - they don't equate morality with the things we understand from the Word of Wisdom.
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I guess for the same reason that some people have unhealthy food consumption habits - they don't equate morality with the things we understand from the Word of Wisdom.
snow...explain to me what is in the word of wisdom on this subject that is different then what the bible teaches us? I get the impression that they say the same thing. Am I wrong?
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