Alcohol

[Islander]

Originally Posted by YoungMormonRoyalist

So does that mean drunks are one step away from divinity? They just do the reverse of what Christ did, that is, they turn wine (or other alcoholic beverages) into water.

Divinely drunk!!! What a concept!!! LOL...that sounds exquisitely funny.

I think this is one of those subject we beat to death every month or so. There aught to be 4 dozen threads about the "wine" drinking issue around. Would organize them in alphabetical order somewhere. Just a suggestion.

[jimuk]

Do you think that heavenly father would put wine in front of a recovering alcoholic, i know he would not
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If my child was doing his best to stay away from booze, there is no way i would try to lead him/her into temptation by making it freely available to them should they be coming to me for help.

To me it is so simple, i am not having a go at anyone, but it really is so plain and logical surely.

If you would not do it because you love your children then why would anyone even think that our heavenly father would do it if he loves us.

The above has nothing to do with scriptures, it is just loving our brothers and sisters the way Jesus intended us to do.

Lead us not into temptation.

[bytor2112]

Interesting that alcohol is refered to as "spirits".........

[Hemidakota]

With reading Elder Widtsoe book today, regarding Alcohol, he stated:

"That inasmuch as any man drinketh wine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, . . . and, again, strong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies."

Historical. Alcoholic drinks (those containing the substance ethyl alcohol. CH3CH2OH, commonly known as alcohol) have been used from time immemorial. In every land, wine and other forms of fermented liquors have been well known beverages. The warning of the Word of Wisdom is directed against one of the oldest human practices.

The recognition of the injurious effects of alcoholic drinks was not new in Joseph Smith's day. In almost every country, coincidentally with the record of the existence of alcohol, opposition to its use has been voiced. The Bible, from Noah to the later prophets, contains numerous references to the evil of drunkenness: "Do not drink wine nor strong drink." (Lev. 10:9); "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." (Proverbs 20:1); "Wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps." (Deut. 32:33); "Be not drunk with wine wherein is excess." (Eph. 5:18).

[Godless]

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I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I'm truly sorry if I did. I'll be more careful in the future.

[abqfriend]

More tears with your message-and no laughs. I do not like to see the Savior/Jesus being made fun of in any way.
-Carol

Originally Posted by Godless

"Are you kidding? Jesus' BAC was enough to kill a normal man. Not only was Jesus a drunk, but it's proof of his divinity!"

Can't remember where I heard/saw that, but I love it! Just thought I'd share the lols.

[ADoyle90815]

I personally believe that alcohol is fine in moderation for most people. If someone has a family history of alcoholism, then they really should abstain. It's actually considered rude not to offer non-alcoholic beverages to guests who don't drink alcohol.

[joheri]

Maybe it's been said allready, but to me, it seems one verse from the WoW is often left out in every discussion about it (D&C 89:3): "Given for a principle with promise, adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints, who are or can be called saints.

Remember that WoW was first given as a piece of advise, a benificial principle to follow. Verse 3 tells me that HF knows there are those among us who are somewhat predisposed to becoming an alcoholic (called the "weak" or "weakest" in vers 3). So, if all saints in any given circumstance abstain from it, no one will be tempted to drink it and the "weak" may never develop alcoholism. It also means that many of us would do just fine drinking some alcohol, but as LDS, we have promised not to do it anyway.

Just my take on it....

[hordak]

Originally Posted by tomk

I don't know why they think it is "OKAY" -- Forget religion for a minute. Common sense says "Don't put poison into your body." Drinking alcohol (think about it) is tantamount to "putting poison" into your body. Is it not? I mean, is somone actually going to disagree with me on that point?

I will.

Alle Dinge sind Gift und nichts ist ohne Gift; allein die Dosis macht, dass ein Ding kein Gift ist." which translates as,
"All things are poison and nothing is without poison; only the dose makes a thing not a poison."
heophrastus Phillipus Auroleus Bombastus von Hohenheim

[Maureen]

Drinking alcohol (think about it) is tantamount to "putting poison" into your body. Is it not? I mean, is somone actually going to disagree with me on that point?

I, for one, will adamantly disagree with you. (I will add to this post, once I get home.)