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07-08-2008, 10:49 PM
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Does Magic Exist?
Just wondering about magic and opinions of magic. For example - I believe in magic. I believe that math and music are both forms of expressing and using magic.
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07-08-2008, 10:51 PM
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I belive in magic but I also belive Satan uses magic to fool us...... Easy to discern if your paying attention
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07-08-2008, 10:53 PM
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I used to make quarters disappear. It's an illusion. The illusion is real. Making the quarter disappear isn't. Magic is simply illusion/deception, in my opinion.
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No such thing as "magic."
There's illusion and misdirection.
There's science.
There's the priesthood.
And then there's satan's power to work "miracles"
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07-08-2008, 11:00 PM
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You guys are narrow minded and wrong.....
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07-08-2008, 11:11 PM
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You guys are narrow minded and wrong.....
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A flame? That came out of left field and it wasn't very nice, especially considering you didn't back up your claim. I think you can word that better and substantiate your opinion.
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07-08-2008, 11:39 PM
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How can you say theres no magic............... Mabey your idea of magic is different than mine. A beautiful sunset, a babies smile , the way everything works out even when it seems it won't, miracles and magic go hand in hand......... If the magic dosen't go against the gospel what is the problem?
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07-08-2008, 11:45 PM
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I was going to say . . . the OP needs to define "magic" and we can discuss that definition.
MY definition of "magic" is the ability to have the elements of the multi-metaverse obey your instructions. So I'd have to say, yes.
Now, methods . . .
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07-08-2008, 11:49 PM
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I know some people think items like ouija boards and tarot cards contain some kind of magic. Seems rather superstitious to me, but maybe they are making a leap of faith like we all do with our other beliefs.
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07-08-2008, 11:51 PM
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Magic is simply illusion/deception, in my opinion.
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Skale how can you say this????
So the mist rising of the lake in the early morning, birds singing and the sun just cresting the horizon isn't magical its an illusion/deception
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