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Old 07-27-2008, 02:18 PM
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Hahah! I can't be offended. I was just worried that someone might hear the anger at Driscoll and confuse it with what the church teaches. I genuinely like everyone.
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I find his comments about people who do not fit into his ideal of manliness ignorant. How many wonderfully spiritual people have I met and been influenced by, that would be be criticized by his mischaraterization of manliness. Countless, I am sure. A guy in my Bishopric, one of the most spiritual men I have ever met, is also one of the biggest, toughest guys I have ever met and also one of the most genteel men that I have ever met. He would make Mr. Driscoll feel imasculated just by being in his presence.
Hi Bytor--

Sounds like you've perused a few sound-bites. I'm glad you did. But out of curiosity--what is Pastor Mark's, "Ideal of manliness?" And if he has such a thing, what is it that you find so objectionable and wouldn't wish your own sons to emulate?

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To be fair, Erik... He probably is referring to one of Mark Driscoll's famous speeches from the pulpit. Mark's words are designed to evoke emotion. They're designed to get a visceral reaction. In this case, it succeeded but it obviously offended him. Mark himself said, "There are two types of people in this world - People I've offended and people who haven't met me, yet."

He's a good man, but you -do- have to understand he can sometimes offend people.
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I am closing this thread. I think opinions and answers from the OP have been expressed.
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