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I agree with what you are saying, just a little worried about the way you are saying it.

When we are talking about history (and it's simply my opinion) we need to be careful who might identify with this history and how what we say, affects them. Even facts can hurt.
Point well taken. Again, I try but not always succeed to be diplomatic and careful.
I tend to be a man of few but precise words. It is not always possible to state a point delicately enough.

I do appreciate your advise on the matter. Thank you.
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Point well taken. Again, I try but not always succeed to be diplomatic and careful.
I tend to be a man of few but precise words. It is not always possible to state a point delicately enough.

I do appreciate your advise on the matter. Thank you.
Everyone seems to get defensive and upset about history that has impacted their lives, directly or indirectly. It's just human nature, I suppose.
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I found this today, hadn't read it before, and I feel that it fits the original question.

1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you? 2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
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2 Corinthians chapter 3 - thanks.....
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Everyone seems to get defensive and upset about history that has impacted their lives, directly or indirectly. It's just human nature, I suppose.
Just a note: History is little more than a point of view. The battle of the Alamo as a hostory lesson is quite different in classes taught in the USA as compared to what is taugh in Mexico. There is still had feelings among many Mexicans that some of the American heros stole land from the Mexicans that owned it and killed anyone that objected or attempted to defend their porperty or their rights - causing the war in the first place.

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I always have a hard time in reading someone own view of history, when in fact, it was not how it really happen.
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I always have a hard time in reading someone own view of history, when in fact, it was not how it really happen.
In reality all history, religion, politics and some other things are really biased opinions dependent on the particular point-of-view. If someone is not willing to admit their point of view; it is my biased opinion that their view is not at all accurate and should not be believed, perhaps not even considered. When news programs claim "no spin zone", "That's the way it is" or anything else that ignores the fact of their bias - you can know you are not dealing with an honest person or institution.

In general if a person is not willing to admit their bias but are willing to maintain an argument – I chock it all up to insanity (no other logical explanation that I can imagine). And if there is anything I have learned in life – it is useless to attempt a meaningful (or accurate) discussion with the insane. Attempting a meaningful discussion with the insane is just another kind of insanity. (and yes this includes the bipolar that refuse to recognize their problem).

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