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08-13-2008, 11:57 AM
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What happens to families...
As a member of the LDS church, we believe that families can be together forever. That husands and wives and sons and daughters can be forever bound in the eternities through sacred ordinances performed in Temples. Marriage is essential to the plan of salvation. So essential that I cannot obtain the highest degree of celestial glory without being sealed to my wife.
What do other denominations teach regarding the family after death or in heaven or what do you believe personally? Are your children your children? Is your spouse your spouse?
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08-13-2008, 01:47 PM
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Lutherans... they dont really know... they say maybe.. but then they believe that they are spirits like they believe God is ... no body... However lutheranism is a VERY allowing religion. you can think what ever pleases you and you will get that.... If you ask a priest if there is life after death they say, that they hope so and that we can live in hope... no one has returned to tell ther is. God and Jesus is one: Jesus is Gods earthly appearance. Someone said to me: yes families are to gether as spirits...
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When i was raised baptist, I was taught there was nothing. We wouldn't know each other in heaven, but it isn't as gloomy as it sounds. We would be so focused on God that the desire to be with them wouldn't be there.
But it seems like a waste to have a family unit in that case.
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08-13-2008, 01:58 PM
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When i was raised baptist, I was taught there was nothing. We wouldn't know each other in heaven, but it isn't as gloomy as it sounds. We would be so focused on God that the desire to be with them wouldn't be there.
But it seems like a waste to have a family unit in that case.
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My wife and I were both Southern Baptists. Funny, the way we used to believe, it really makes no sense now. Our friend is a "saved" Baptist but she doesn't live a devout life. She believes Heaven will be really boring because all you will get to do is sing praises and worship God.
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The idea of celestial marriage was first espoused by Emmanuel Swedenborg, so I would imagine the Swedenborgians still cling to this idea.
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The idea of celestial marriage was first espoused by Emmanuel Swedenborg, so I would imagine the Swedenborgians still cling to this idea.
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Yes....I have read that on some anti-sites......not sure how that applies to LDS doctrine really. Some say that Joseph borrowed this belief from them and adopted it to make plural marriage more pallitable.
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The idea of celestial marriage was first espoused by Emmanuel Swedenborg, so I would imagine the Swedenborgians still cling to this idea.
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See if you can say Swedenborgians three times real fast and not mess up. That is a tongue twister
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Yes....I have read that on some anti-sites......not sure how that applies to LDS doctrine really. Some say that Joseph borrowed this belief from them and adopted it to make plural marriage more pallitable.
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Don't need to go to any anti-sites. A book on world religions would suffice.
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Added to this the Swedenborgians believe that marriage is eternal. They state that an individual will be married to his or her spouse in the afterlife if he or she has a true spiritual marriage, and that if a person dies unmarried he or she will find a spouse in heaven.
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Regardless of the borrowing, I think the Swedenborgians are the only other group besides the Mormons who espouse Celestial Marriage.
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Lutherans... but then they believe that they are spirits like they believe God is...no body...
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Mailis, if you are speaking about the resurrection, I must disagree. Evangelical Lutherans believe in the resurrection of the body, it says so in the Apostles' Creed, and it's recited weekly. Concerning the belief in families forever - nothing specific regarding "families living together forever" is taught as doctrine, but I believe most Lutherans (speaking as one) believe that when they are resurrected they will see familiar faces, so to speak, since we will be ourselves, just gloriously different.
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Regardless of the borrowing, I think the Swedenborgians are the only other group besides the Mormons who espouse Celestial Marriage.
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The B'hai faith (I'm sure I spelled that wrong) believes in Eternal Marriage.
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