Denominations?

[chriscb]

Originally Posted by Hemidakota

To all: when the Master come to knock on your door, does He say, "my servant, my I come in and abide for a time?" Or..."my friend, can I stay and abide for a time?"

Is this a trick question?

"No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you." John 15:15

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by chriscb

Perhaps it would be helpful if you explained exactly how one recieves the appropriate authority from God. In other words, what actions must take place? I know what happened to me, but since you brought it up, I'll let you explain in your own words.

Unless the authorized priesthood from the Godhead by those who are appointed is given directly to a dispensational prophet and passed on by the laying on the hands of that said authority, anything beyond that is done in vain. Anything that is not of GOD, it is usually referred as priestcraft.

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by chriscb

He didn't say "AN eternal GOD" he said worshiping Jesus Christ as THE Eternal God. I think there is a big difference there. Also, I'm surprised by your answer. It seems to be a personal choice (depending upon whom LDS are speaking to). But many members of the LDS church will vehemently proclaim that we worship only God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ and that we do not worship Jesus as a distinct God. Mostly, I hear this when the conversation revolves around our being labeled as polytheists.

We also worshipped the Christ since He is the GOD of this world. I don't know about others in the church who would go to great lengths in denying this may have issues.

Elder Bruce R. McConkie explained why...

Ye must ... worship him] Elder Bruce R. McConkie has written that "in addition to worshipping the Father, our great and eternal Head, by whose word men are, there is a sense in which we worship the Son. We pay divine honor, reverence, and homage to him because of his atoning sacrifice, because immortality and eternal life come through him. He does not replace the Father in receiving reverence, honor, and respect, but he is worthy to receive all the praise and glory that our whole souls have power to possess." (Promised Messiah, p. 566.)

2 Nephi 25:29. And now behold, I say unto you that the right way is to believe in Christ, and deny him not; and Christ is the Holy One of Israel; wherefore ye must bow down before him, and worship him with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul; and if ye do this ye shall in nowise be cast out.

30. And, inasmuch as it shall be expedient, ye must keep the performances and ordinances of God until the law shall be fulfilled which was given unto Moses.

Jesus Christ, after having detailed how it was that he had received divine assistance as he gave of himself to others ("grace for grace"), as well as how he as our Exemplar developed line upon line in his growth toward the fulness of the glory of the Father ("from grace to grace"), concluded: "I give unto you these sayings that you may understand and know how to worship, and know what you worship, that you may come unto the Father in my name, and in due time receive of his fulness. For if you keep my commandments you shall receive of his fulness, and be glorified in me as I am in the Father; therefore, I say unto you, you shall receive grace for grace." (D&C 93:19-20; italics added.) As set forth in the foregoing revelation, we worship the Son in that we seek to be like him. We worship him in that we strive to pattern our lives after his. That is to say, "perfect worship is emulation. We honor those whom we imitate. The most perfect way of worship is to be holy as Jehovah is holy. It is to be pure as Christ is pure. It is to do the things that enable us to become like the Father." In summary, we worship Christ "by going from grace to grace, until we receive the fulness of the Father and are glorified in light and truth as is the case with our Pattern and Prototype, the Promised Messiah." (Promised Messiah, pp. 568-69.)

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by chriscb

Is this a trick question?

"No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you." John 15:15

Do you really understand this quote and what the true of implications given here?

[KristofferUmfrey]

Originally Posted by Hemidakota

Unless the authorized priesthood from the Godhead by those who are appointed is given directly to a dispensational prophet and passed on by the laying on the hands of that said authority, anything beyond that is done in vain. Anything that is not of GOD, it is usually referred as priestcraft.

II Nephi 11 : 106 He commandeth that there shall be no priestcrafts; for, behold, priestcrafts are that men preach and set themselves up for a light unto the world, that they may get gain, and praise of the world; but they seek not the welfare of Zion

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I fear your definition of priestcraft is rather broad my dear brother...

There are plenty of good brethren outside of your church that preach in humility, don't ask for praise, don't seek filthy lucre and DO seek the welfare of Zion.

[Hemidakota]

Many are deceived for various reasons but priestcraft is anything that is a men and not of GOD. There is but one church, one Godhead, and one gospel. If not, there is chaos. Right?

I do know that are many righteous people who are not of this church, whom do great works for this earth. But, it would be a eternal reward, if it is done under the appropriate priesthood.

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by chriscb

The word "doctrine" means teaching not theory. The tri-unity of God aka the Trinity is a doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox as well as Protestant churches. Nowhere have I ever seen them call it a "theory". Your use of the word (theory) comes across to me as a pejorative. If you don't mean it that way, then please explain why you call it a "theory".

If critical is the term, then yes. It was never considered a doctrine from the original church before it apostated into many fragments but a theory drawn up of men who had no witnessed of the divinity of the Godhead.

[chriscb]

Originally Posted by Hemidakota

Do you really understand this quote and what the true of implications given here?

I consider myself a humble man and one who is not "all-knowing" and therefore, if you feel impressed to share with me your knowledge about this quote and it's implications I would happily receive this new found knowledge. But, I suspect it has something to do with the great plan of happiness and our own eternal progression.

[Hemidakota]

I am same way; one who thirsts for more light.

Chris, it is referring too them that received the Second Comforter or Jesus Christ. You are no longer a servant of Christ but a true friend of Christ. This is accomplished today when we our trials of fire and obeying the GOD's will are complete enough that we are presented to the Godhead by the Holy Ghost as a friend. It is done, we are instructed not just only by the Holy Ghost but by the FATHER, the Savior, and others who are assigned to instruct us doing our mortal probation.

[15]"Ye are My friends—henceforth I call you not servants, for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth. Ye are My friends, for all things which I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you."

[16]"Ye have not chosen Me, but I have: chosen you."

[chriscb]

Originally Posted by Hemidakota

I am same way; one who thirsts for more light.

Chris, it is referring too them that received the Second Comforter or Jesus Christ. You are no longer a servant of Christ but a true friend of Christ. This is accomplished today when we our trials of fire and obeying the GOD's will are complete enough that we are presented to the Godhead by the Holy Ghost as a friend. It is done, we are instructed not just only by the Holy Ghost but by the FATHER, the Savior, and others who are assigned to instruct us doing our mortal probation.

[15]"Ye are My friends—henceforth I call you not servants, for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth. Ye are My friends, for all things which I have heard of My Father I have made known unto you."

[16]"Ye have not chosen Me, but I have: chosen you."

The underlined portion I quoted above, was that a typo or did you intend to use the word "or"? According to scripture, the Comforter (paraclete) is the Holy Spirit. Who is this "Second Comforter" you speak of? The way you phrased your sentence, it comes across as if you are saying Jesus Christ is the "Second Comforter". Please explain.

ETA: Actually, I just answered my own question. Jesus is the first comforter (paraclete) and the Holy Spirit is the second. John 14:16 Jesus says "another paraclete" will come to help his disciples, implying Jesus is the first paraclete.