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Old 09-09-2008, 09:05 AM
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I was watching a documentary the other night on television that was about this man. Let me tell you what a character!!!! He's a former attorney and Baptist preacher. He is 80 something years old and his congregation basically is made up of immediate and extended family...he has a large one. He and his family preach hate....that God hates everyone but them and that the rest of us are going to eternal damnation and so on and so forth. He and his family are fond of picketing especially gay pride parades...he really hates the homosexual community. They hold up signs saying "God Hates F*gs..things like that Well that sort of got me upset because I do have friends that happen to be gay but I'm not one to go against freedom of speech. Even though it is against most of our beliefs it really doesn't bother me. What really upset me and put so much anger and sadness in my heart was that these people were picketing funerals. Funerals that were for soldiers that died in Iraq...signs saying "Thank God for Dead Soldiers", "Thank God for 911" I mean come on!!! They actually believe that God is killing the soldiers on purpose because everyone is going to hell anyway and he is punishing people. Not only this but these people have their 5, 6, 7 year old kids holding these signs and saying nasty things to people. Has anyone heard of this guy before? I pray that they see the harm they are causing to other people and to their own children.
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This guy has been in the news for a couple of years. Some communities have successfully banned him from the funerals for their soldiers.

He is what is wrong with freedom of speech.

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we had a big debate in chat about this once...... i think when it comes to funerals and weddings this kind of "freedom of speech" shouldn't be allowed.
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I was watching a documentary the other night on television that was about this man. Let me tell you what a character!!!! He's a former attorney and Baptist preacher. He is 80 something years old and his congregation basically is made up of immediate and extended family...he has a large one. He and his family preach hate....that God hates everyone but them and that the rest of us are going to eternal damnation and so on and so forth. He and his family are fond of picketing especially gay pride parades...he really hates the homosexual community. They hold up signs saying "God Hates F*gs..things like that Well that sort of got me upset because I do have friends that happen to be gay but I'm not one to go against freedom of speech. Even though it is against most of our beliefs it really doesn't bother me. What really upset me and put so much anger and sadness in my heart was that these people were picketing funerals. Funerals that were for soldiers that died in Iraq...signs saying "Thank God for Dead Soldiers", "Thank God for 911" I mean come on!!! They actually believe that God is killing the soldiers on purpose because everyone is going to hell anyway and he is punishing people. Not only this but these people have their 5, 6, 7 year old kids holding these signs and saying nasty things to people. Has anyone heard of this guy before? I pray that they see the harm they are causing to other people and to their own children.

Being preacher of hate is not of GOD we clearly see. Very unfortunate that his family members do follow him. Though, there is a space for him after death that is well suited for his kind of rhetoric....
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There is nothing "reverend" about Freddy Phelps. Now, Westboro Baptist church - THAT IS a cult, and a dangerous one at that.
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Rev. Phelps is the only person on the face of the planet that could have me cheering for Michael Moore. Michael got a bright pink bus called the "sodomobile", filled it with gay folk and covered it with gay propaganda, and went and suckered Phelps into an interview. I can't exactly say that the forces of good won the day, but Phelps retreated, and that's worth at least a head nod.

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let's be careful here.....how many have said, "those mormons, yeah, they aren't christian, they are a cult"
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I wouldn't call them a cult but I do remember this "By their fruits ye shall know them". Their fruits are one of hate and disgrace.

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I wish the Reverend Phelps followers would all join the Landover Baptist Church instead. They would do less harm by staying with this online ministry.

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