We can become gods?

[MrNirom]

Originally Posted by Hemidakota

We are never filled or our thirst is never quenched, once we are touched by that ‘hand’.

Something I should also add, years ago, I would never question a General Authority position on a topic, but now, I will on occasion, when a topic comes up and I had witnessed it for myself that is not true, I would try to change it or correct the mistake. Though, it still doesn't mean they were misled and not love for their service rendered to the FATHER and His beloved Son.

I guess my use of the word filled was used in the way one would "fill" up a gas tank. As you use it.. it must be "filled" again. But only if you intend on using it. If you don't use it.. then there is no need to "fill" it again.

I feel that the General Authorities speak to the General Membership. And what the General Membership is ready to hear is not always the same as what some individuals are ready to hear.

They are human too and can fall into the same traps as the rest of us. It only takes one beaver to make a dam and stop the flow of the water. Not as quick if more were helping out.

[FinGirl87]

This belief is what led to my resignation.
When I joined the LDS church six months ago, I was under the impression that the church members do not believe that men can become gods with their own planets and spirit children etc. I even asked this from the missionaries, but they couldn't really answer, or denied it. When I found out that they really do (atleast those in my country and church) I knew I couldn't be part of the church anymore. I do not believe that there can be other gods then God. I am no longer a member of the LDS church.

[guitarwizard]

Originally Posted by Tytto_19

This belief is what led to my resignation.
When I joined the LDS church six months ago, I was under the impression that the church members do not believe that men can become gods with their own planets and spirit children etc. I even asked this from the missionaries, but they couldn't really answer, or denied it. When I found out that they really do (atleast those in my country and church) I knew I couldn't be part of the church anymore. I do not believe that there can be other gods then God. I am no longer a member of the LDS church.

I don't see why it is such a hard doctrine to accept. It was taught by the most respected early Christian church fathers. It is taught today. Man will follow the grand example set by Jesus Christ and inherit all that the father has to offer. It is written in scripture that will be joint-heirs with Christ and share in His glory for eternity (1 Peter 10:5 & Romans 8:17.) That doctrine doesn't scare me, it makes me hopeful. And sometimes, it makes me realize the beauty of this plan and brings me to tears.

[FinGirl87]

Guitarwizard, I don't think I should explain here why it is so hard to accept, it might be considerd to be anti-mormon. But I have my reasons, and they are based in the bible.

[guitarwizard]

Originally Posted by Tytto_19

Guitarwizard, I don't think I should explain here why it is so hard to accept, it might be considerd to be anti-mormon. But I have my reasons, and they are based in the bible.

This thread is another Biblical point against theosis. We are all pretty strong in our faith, and I hate to speak for others, but I personally enjoy when people pull out these scriptures that go against Church Doctrine. I am no moderator, but i would say that this would be the place to air your grievances.

[john doe]

Originally Posted by Tytto_19

Guitarwizard, I don't think I should explain here why it is so hard to accept, it might be considerd to be anti-mormon. But I have my reasons, and they are based in the bible.

As long as you are not using anti-LDS sources and are not encouraging people to leave the church, you are probably okay. Trot it out, let's see what you've got. If it's inappropriate, we can always delete it.

[FinGirl87]

Okay first I'd like to say, that I didn't read this from anti-mormon websites, I figured this out by myself.
My statement is, that God doesn't want/intend man to be like god.

Tree of the knowledge made man like god, genesis 3:5 it says : "for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

God says that man is not allowed to eat from the tree of knowledge. Genesis 2:16-17
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat;
17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it.

Doesn't this mean, that God didn't want man to be "like god", knowing good and evil? If it doesn't, that means God's lying.
It is a sin wanting to be like God, that's what Satan wanted in the first place, to be like God.

[guitarwizard]

Originally Posted by Tytto_19

Okay first I'd like to say, that I didn't read this from anti-mormon websites, I figured this out by myself.
My statement is, that God doesn't want/intend man to be like god.

Tree of the knowledge made man like god, genesis 3:5 it says : "for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

God says that man is not allowed to eat from the tree of knowledge. Genesis 2:16-17
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat;
17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it.

Doesn't this mean, that God didn't want man to be "like god", knowing good and evil? If it doesn't, that means God's lying.
It is a sin wanting to be like God, that's what Satan wanted in the first place, to be like God.

This is really more of a problem with denying the plan of salvation than becoming like a god. How could Adam and Eve have multiplied and replenished the earth if they never partook of the fruit? The three pillars of eternity are the creation, the fall, and the atonement. We know that Jesus Christ was chosen as The Savior prior to the creation. If there was no fall, there would be no need for Christ. The fall was part of gods plan, from the beginning. It has even been put forth that God wanted Adam and Eve to partake of the fruit, but it had to be by their own decision. He couldn't tell them to eat the fruit, because if he did, he would be responsible for their fallen state. By giving them agency and making the consequences known to them, he was able to sit back and let His plan be brought into fruition.

If you go a step farther and look at some apocryphal documents, the story of Adam and Eve gets even deeper. In the Armenian Apocrypha of Adam and Eve, Satan tells Adam and Eve that "God was a man like you. when he ate of the fruit of this tree he became god of all. because of that god said to you not to eat, lest you become an equal god, like himself."

This is not really that big of a deal. It seems that God wanted man to partake of the fruit, why else would He provide Jesus Christ as a savior?

[a-train]

The Bible teaches plainly that men are gods and children of the Most High. Claims that the LDS belief in such is unbiblical are simply ridiculous. I have worn myself out quoting the scriptures of the Bible that demonstrate plainly that the whole point of man's creation is to rise him to immortality and eternal life and to give to him a throne and a crown in heaven. If you don't believe it, you don't believe the Bible.

-a-train

[Islander]

I suggested this before. We should have FAQ's on the site. The questions remain the same time and again. It will save time and provide for a quick crash course for the truly interested and avoid A-train being worn out and "derail" trying to explain for the n-th time.

Cheers