We can become gods?

[Interested]

[Couldn't these sons of God be angels of his that were sent to educate man and then later fell?

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by rameumptom

If I'm understanding you (and if so, I agree), you are referring to the concept that in baptism and Sacrament we "take upon" ourselves the name of Christ.

The name "Jesus" is short for Yehoshua/Joshua and means "God/YHWH saves". The name "Christ" is Greek "Khristos" for "Anointed one."

When Jesus makes us "kings and priests unto the God and his Father" (Rev 1:5-6), we will be anointed and become a savior (Jesus is Savior with a capital "S"). We can save others through preaching to them, take our ancestral dead to the temple for baptism, etc. And we are anointed to be "heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ."

Hemi, is this what you were thinking?

I was looking at it as passing a title from a GOD or FATHER, to HIS first born son, acting in that role as a Savior for humanity. A given example, using the term’ President' for America as a title, it is given to the next elected official as he/she assumes the role. This only leaves me believe, there is a one who resides above our FATHER's dominion that may hold this as HIS true name that even evil fears most. If you notice, we do not cast out evil spirits in the name of Jehovah but in Jesus Christ.

I do expect it is the same, no matter what other earth in other galaxies, we will find the title - JESUS CHRIST - as their Savior.

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by Interested

[Couldn't these sons of God be angels of his that were sent to educate man and then later fell?

The title "Son of" or "Sons of" anciently designated a covenant. We see this among the LDS in our modern time - in D&D 84 in talking about the oath and covenant of the priesthood the name and title in the priesthood includes sons of Aaron and Moses; which means the covenant is inclusive on the covenants of Aaron and Moses.


The title in the Old Testament concerning the sons of G-d is a most interesting consideration. They were under covenant with G-d. It is doubtful that they were spirit angles because such do not have power (breath of life) to “replenish” or have offspring.
The Traveler

[Hemidakota]

Originally Posted by Tytto_19

This is the reason why I didn't want to explain this, because people will get upset. I didn't mean anything bad with it. I think mormons have the right to believe how they wish. But for me this IS a big deal. I don't believe there can be other gods but God, and I don't want to learn to believe it. Just because many people tell me that it could be possible that humans could become gods, that doesn't make it the truth.
But the thing that I found most upsetting, was the fact that my missionaries denied this whole belief in multiple gods before I was baptised, even though I specifically asked them, and only told me after I had paid some of my yearly 10%.

I'm not anti-mormon. I'm still in contact with some church members, I don't courage people to leave the church.

A very large universe and being alone or being GOD, I am sure there are more than HIM, that includes HIS own FATHER or Creator.

[FinGirl87]

Ok everyones here trying to convince me to believe that there can be multiple gods. Doesn't anyone find it even a little strange, that my missionaries denied this belief, and only after I had been baptised and paid some of my tiths told me the truth? Does this happen often? As some people refer to it "giving milk before meat".

[Hemidakota]

Correct....even I did not know this until later on in my growth in the gospel.

Missionary ignorance....but it is not for them to teach anything that is not basis of missionary work. Also, I would not expect them to know it. My son is currently serving a mission and even he knows this but will not teach it. We need to learn the basics first before applying for the mysteries of heaven.

In making a simpler form of understanding: do you not have a mortal father? Does he not have a mortal father? Does your grandfather have a father? If the answer is yes, then GOD HIMSELF is not alone.

[MrNirom]

Originally Posted by Tytto_19

Does this happen often? As some people refer to it "giving milk before meat".

Peter in the Recognitions said:

“The teaching of all doctrine, has a certain order, and there are some things which must be delivered first, others in the second place, and others in the third, and so all in their order; and if these things be delivered in their order, they become plain; but if they be brought forward out of order, they will seem to be spoken against reason.”

That is why he rebuked the youthful Clement for wanting “to know everything ahead of time.”

Clement of Alexandria said:

”The Mysteries of Faith are not to be disclosed indiscriminately to everyone, since not all are ready to receive the truth.”

[Nibley, Since Cumorah, The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley, vol. 7, pp. 96-97]

When Joseph Smith received revelation about the Church in these latter days.. he was NOT given a DATA DUMP into his brain so that he knew everything. Even Joseph was taught LINE UPON LINE... PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT... that took him years to gain.

You don't need to know EVERYTHING to join the Church.

[Islander]

Originally Posted by Tytto_19

Ok everyones here trying to convince me to believe that there can be multiple gods. Doesn't anyone find it even a little strange, that my missionaries denied this belief, and only after I had been baptised and paid some of my tiths told me the truth? Does this happen often? As some people refer to it "giving milk before meat".

Tyto:

You seem to have a problem with semantics. There is God, the Eternal Father to whom Jesus prayed and commanded us to pray to in his name. And there Jesus, The Son of God and who is also God Himself whom made the world and the things on it by commandment of the Father. If you did not know this is because you did not understand the scriptures. Jesus was The Word, and The Word was with God and the Word was God. It is in Genesis.
We worship God the Eternal Father in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ (who is also God).

You seem more interested in voicing your anger than trying to understand the doctrine as it appeared in the bible. We did not invented it. Most Christians today have not read the bible cover to cover and ignore but the most basic principles. When you tell them that a donkey spoke or a metal ax can float or that spirits can come and talk tot he living they are blown away.

Let us know what you would like to understand and we will be happy to point you in the direction of the sources. You can ask God Himself about the truths of the doctrine.

[FinGirl87]

Islander, yes, I am angry. You know why? Because I was lied to. I believe missionaries should be honest. I feel like I was tricked into being baptized.

I don't know what I believe in. Sometimes it seems like a good idea to just go back to LDS church and pretend nothing was ever wrong. But I can't live in a lie, pretend to believe something I don't. It would be great if I could just believe, but that's not who I am.

And for the record, I did ask God. I did feel like the church was true, I truly did. But I've learned that feelings can lead you wrong. Heart is deceitful. Ask the muslims, ask the jews, ask pagans. They ALL feel that their religion is true.

Still, if you feel that LDS is the right religion for you, than go ahead. I believe in freedom of religion.

[Hemidakota]

"The Olive-Tree ridiculed the Fig-Tree because, while she was green all the year round, the Fig-Tree changed its leaves with the seasons. A shower of snow fell upon them, and, finding the Olive full of foliage, it settled upon its branches and broke them down with its weight, at once despoiling it of its beauty and killing the tree. But finding the Fig-Tree denuded of leaves, the snow fell through to the ground, and did not injure it at all."