We can become gods? - Page 19

Hemidakota · #**181** (**permalink**) 12-24-2008, 11:19 AM

It is the same logical thinking as was given earlier. Not to forget, what was also stated by members here, a child sucks milk first before attempting real food. The line of questioning would be given as it is stated to all those who are investigating the church. Later, through your own research, study, trials of refiner’s fire, I hope the Holy Ghost would impart that information but that is not always the case, even with General Authorities.

Then ask the missionaries and see what answer is given to my line of question. Or perhaps, members on this forum here....you find that less than one percent can answer it truthfully. Even though, one may know with surety, most cannot answer this question. Nor do I expect they should answer it.

As I do not expect missionaries even to fathom what is beyond our Godhead from church teaching materials and even their own testimonies are able to answer this question.

john doe · #**182** (**permalink**) 12-24-2008, 11:20 AM

I don't think Tytto was lied to. I believe he's straining at a gnat. We worship one God (large "G"), and He is the only one we are to concern ourselves with. The fact that we may believe in eternal progression and that it may be possible for His children to become gods (small "G"), is a completely different concept.

KristofferUmfrey · #**183** (**permalink**) 12-24-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by john doe

I don't think Tytto was lied to. I believe he's straining at a gnat. We worship one God (large "G"), and He is the only one we are to concern ourselves with. The fact that we may believe in eternal progression and that it may be possible for His children to become gods (small "G"), is a completely different concept.

He was told you believe there are no other Gods, when the topic came up. That is not true. Though you only worship one God, you very definitely believe there are other Gods out there.

bmy- · #**184** (**permalink**) 12-25-2008, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KristofferUmfrey

When you are an adult and making such an important decision like changing churches, and you specifically ask a question and are given a misleading answer... it is a lie. Do you not have enough faith in the investigators to give them all the information when they ask?

I'm a recent convert.. and a few missionaries that I was introduced to were not learned very well. They didn't have the answers to the tough questions.. they did excel at the plan of salvation though

Let's not judge all missionaries due to ones ignorance or mistake.

MrNirom · #**185** (**permalink**) 12-25-2008, 04:02 PM

Even missionaries are not perfect. If one did lie... that does not in anyway mean that all lie
and that the Church did anything wrong. If it did happen.. the missionary in question has the
right to defend himself and tell his side of the story.

Traveler · #**186** (**permalink**) 12-25-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KristofferUmfrey

He was told you believe there are no other Gods, when the topic came up. That is not true. Though you only worship one God, you very definitely believe there are other Gods out there.

If you believe the Bible then you know that there are g-ds, some of which oppose and fight against G-d. (See 2Cor 4:4)

It is also interesting to me that the reason Jesus was considered to be worthy of death was because he believed that a man could become a g-d.
(See John 10:33-35)

But there is no reason for much concern - No one will be forced to become a g-d in the Kingdom of heaven.

The Traveler

john doe · #**187** (**permalink**) 12-25-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KristofferUmfrey

He was told you believe there are no other Gods, when the topic came up. That is not true. Though you only worship one God, you very definitely believe there are other Gods out there.

That's his side of the story. We don't know for sure what went on. When people become disenchanted with the church, they typically twist things to make it look like they were lied to when in fact they misunderstood the answer or were misunderstood in the question. You don't know for a fact that he was lied to, all you know is Tytto's side of the story. That may not be the way things really happened.

FinGirl87 · #**188** (**permalink**) 12-26-2008, 07:14 AM

I'm not talking about worshipping multiple gods, I'm talking about the belief that there are multiple gods, even if you worship only one.

And when I joined, I was told that paid tiths will not be returned. (This is for the one who said I can ask them to be returned.)

I think there is only one god, that's why it is so hard for me to believe that there are others too, even if not worshipped. And I say it again, feelings should not be trusted, think of all the people who belong to cults and think they are true, and are happier than ever. Note: I'm not saying that LDS is a cult.

And for the one who said I can ask my name to be removed, I have already done that. It's been removed and I reassigned, I'm not part of the LDS church anymore.

However I still believe that otherwise the church was awesome. All the people were wonderful and caring, it felt to me like we were just a one big family. That's why this makes me so sad. Part of me wishes that I wouldn't have found out about this doctrine. I was only a member for like 3-4 months, but it still feels that I lost something very dear. Almost as if someone close to me died.

rameumptom · #**189** (**permalink**) 12-26-2008, 07:41 AM

Tytto,
Perhaps the day will come when you will do an actual study of the ancient belief that we can become as God is. Both the Bible and early Christian authors all taught it. Even the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches believe in a form of divinization, although different.
Yes, it isn't an easy doctrine to accept sometimes. But it is true. We are God's children, and he wants us to grow up to be like him. How strange is that?

Traveler · #**190** (**permalink**) 12-26-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FinGirl87

I'm not talking about worshipping multiple gods, I'm talking about the belief that there are multiple gods, even if you worship only one.

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I think there is only one god, that's why it is so hard for me to believe that there are others too, even if not worshipped. And I say it again, feelings should not be trusted, think of all the people who belong to cults and think they are true, and are happier than ever. Note: I'm not saying that LDS is a cult.

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Are you aware that the Bible indicates there are multiple g-ds? Prior to the fall of Adam all references to G-d are plural. After the fall of Adam all references to G-d use the ancient Hebrew word "ehad". The translation into English as a singular G-d is incorrect - The ancient Hebrew for a single individual is "yhead" which is never, never used in reference to G-d.

Ehad is used to speak of "oneness" or unity for plural individuals; for example ehad is used for plural individuals involved in covenants such as marriage.

The Traveler