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11-18-2008, 08:42 PM
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O.k... Orthodox Christianity, but I just get confused with Greek Orthodox when I hear that term used. Is Evangelical better?
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11-18-2008, 09:18 PM
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Interested,
Can I suggest Traditional Christian, (or TC's) as in those who follow the creeds of the church (ie Nicea and Chalcedon) which would include Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, Evanglelical and Trinitarian Pentecostals.
Or you might prefer Lewis like term of Mere Christians from "Mere Christianity"
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11-18-2008, 09:23 PM
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Okie dokei
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11-18-2008, 10:17 PM
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Why would an omnipotent god want other literal gods in his company?
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Why does God want a planet with human beings on it and everything from elephants to rats? Why does God want anything?
I'll say a word on the matter. I hear constantly that God creates all these things so that he can be worshipped by them, served by them. What service can man do to God? NOTHING. Our worship, our righteousness is filthiness to Him. " But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away." (Isaiah 64:6)
It is Satan that wants our worship. For he tempts saying: " All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me." (Matt 4:9) Tis all counterfeit.
The LORD God needs nothing of us. In our worship of Him we do nothing but receive. He is not served by all, but He is the servant of all. " Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many." (Matt 20:28)
Now if indeed the great work of God is not to be served, but to serve, what then does He do in His service? He came to give man immortality and eternal life.
The Saviour prayed saying: " Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:2-3)
How will Jesus glorify the Father? By giving eternal life to man.
How then will we glorify the Father? By taking up eternal life and serving others. What will we do on our thrones? Why, the same thing God does: service to others.
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11-19-2008, 11:39 PM
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We will become like HIM, being Omnipotent. That is HIS desire and not our will.
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Here's how I see it - Everyone on earth has a father and mother. Maybe that father or mother or both did not claim you or something, but everyone still has a dad and mom. In a perfect world little boys and girls want to grow up and be like their dad and mom. It's the same with Heavenly Father and all of us. I don't want to become a "god." I want to become like my Heavenly Father. It may not sound like a big difference to you but it's a big difference to me. God is not my Heavenly Father. Heavenly Father is my Father and God and I want to be like him because I love him, need him, want to be with him, and respect him. I also mean no disrespect to Heavenly Father when I say "God is not my Heavenly Father." Yes, He's God but He's more than that to me - He's my Father who I want to come closer to every day I'm on this earth.
So, what's wrong with me wanting to be like my Heavenly Father if I want to be like him out of love and respect? Nothing.
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11-20-2008, 08:13 AM
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Good point....that is why it is so hard for me to live another day in mortality, for I await that precious day I can again embrace my Eternal Parents and my elder borther with many tears.
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11-20-2008, 01:45 PM
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It makes me realize that because I left the Church for 20 years.. I am 20 years behind in this school of knowledge of God and scriptures.
Thank goodness I don't have to spend the next 20 years reading and understanding the Old Testament to figure out what God wants me to know.. Joseph Smith brought us somewhat up to date.
There are still some things that we don't fully understand that Joseph, Brigham, John Taylor and others spoke about but did not expound on... took with them to their graves that were not "passed" on.
Many will bring up the JOD and some of the teachings there that we do not understand and because we don't.. we have "dismissed" the teachings due to lack of understanding on our part... not on theirs.
Joseph once said that there were things that if he taught them... people would say they were blasphemy and heresy! That lets me know that some truths died with the Prophet.
To know that we have the opportunity to become like our Heavenly Father.. is an awesome lesson to be taught.
Why do people shrink from the thought that God can love us that much?
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"Faith" comes from the Greek PISTIS and
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11-20-2008, 07:28 PM
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Twenty years ago I would hestitate to figure out what is the true form of intelligence and stick with the basics doctrine. Now, there is drive within to make the intitial search and study then come to that conclusion of "what was".  It is amazing how over time our focus have shifted.
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11-20-2008, 08:21 PM
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Twenty years ago I would hestitate to figure out what is the true form of intelligence and stick with the basics doctrine. Now, there is drive within to make the intitial search and study then come to that conclusion of "what was".  It is amazing how over time our focus have shifted.
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I agree.. and a more pressing question is.. Why now? What is the cause of our focus to be shifted?
Tell me if I am wrong... but it does seem to be much more on an individual basis.. rather than everyone in the collective... coming from the top and being filtered downward.
Those who thirst and hunger for new knowledge.. seem to get filled. NO?
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I AM BECOMING that which I wish TO BECOME!
Faith is having a state of mind which
sustains that which is hoped for and reveals
the truth of those things we do not see.
"Faith" comes from the Greek PISTIS and
means: "a mental conviction one has proven true
by argument or reason". If one has faith he
will go to heaven he should be able to justify it
by logical arguments.
Salvation is nothing more/less than to triumph over
all our enemies and put them under our feet.
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11-21-2008, 08:03 AM
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I do blame the Holy Ghost for that 'thirst' and focus shift for truth.
We are never filled or our thirst is never quenched, once we are touched by that ‘hand’.
Something I should also add, years ago, I would never question a General Authority position on a topic, but now, I will on occasion, when a topic comes up and I had witnessed it for myself that is not true, I would try to change it or correct the mistake. Though, it still doesn't mean they were misled and not love for their service rendered to the FATHER and His beloved Son.
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