To All former Evangelicals/Protestants

[Galatians220]

Originally Posted by Faded

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This came across to me as questioning the validity of rameumptom's experiences, feelings and discrediting his story. If I jumped to the wrong conclusion, I apologize.

It's OK, at first glance it does appear to be questioning Rameuptoms testimony. My motivation is to learn the quality and the volumn of his past learning and how that played a role into his conversion. If he was just someone who grew up in church then at least I get to know his church but as for his bible training, if he had none at all, I'll have to look for someone else.

Originally Posted by Faded

There's a lot of folks from other faiths who are less than Christian in their thoughts and feelings about Mormonism. On one all-ecompassing Christian board, one of the moderators of the site told me that "The Mormons" deserved to be driven from state to state, murdered, plundered, raped and assaulted. Why did they deserve it? Because they said mean things and weren't good neighbors, at least according to her. Everyone there wholeheartedly agreed with her. Nobody said a peep to the contrary. I had to leave that board to keep it from permanently tainting my good feelings towards all non-LDS Christians.

She ought to know that not all Mormons are the same. Some are mean, but what church or group that doesn't have a few of them? With me, almost every Mormon I've met are very warm and friendly.

Originally Posted by Faded

There is a tremendous need in Christendom to attack "Mormonism." We deal with it all the time. Some are sneaky and deceptive. Some are very forthright. It can make a person paranoid.

It can and I understand. The Catholics experienced that too from every fundamentalist group that claimed to believe in Scripture.

Originally Posted by Faded

Incidentally, most non-denominational groups tend towards evangelical belief sets. Not sure if that's what rameumptom was a part of though.

I wouldn't be surprised if that is true.

[Gramajane]

I have encountered over the many years I have had discussions with other in real face to face and over the internet- (I'm 61) that there are those who have even just joined the church, to be able to SAY they WERE LDS.

I have had some who say they left believing and going to the church- (but they keep their membership-- their reasoning is in doubt to me) and then they go on line and seem to do all they can to destroy the church! Some have claimed they were taught things totally contrary to church teachings--and granted some might have some new member teacher that does not teach doctrine-- but to then *insist* that what false doctrine they were taught *is* official church doctrine- though it contradicts the canonized standard works (KJV Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, & Pearl of Great Price) -- is so (as my sons would say) lame and bogus!

Anyway-- it only makes sense to me-- if someone is wanting to learn about LDS --
which is the re-established original Christian church--
that they will go to a reliable source- and be happy to find something that didn't feel right to them-- to NOT be right-- not keep insisting that LDS *must* believe something that we all say we don't! -- just because some anti book said we do believe something.

Anyway-- that is my two cents worth, from my own experiences with other.

It HAS been wonderful over the years to find someone who REALLY wants to know what we believe, and will believe that we believe what we say we do.

It has been so incredible to read/hear that some say that LDS have two different "doctrines" one that they SAY to non members that we believe, and another that we do believe-- sheeish-- how confusing would that be! It is hard enough to get the TRUE doctrines straight!

I love the gospel of Jesus Christ and have felt my life blessed the closer I follow His teachings. Gramajane

[Galatians220]

Originally Posted by Gramajane

I have encountered over the many years I have had discussions with other in real face to face and over the internet- (I'm 61) that there are those who have even just joined the church, to be able to SAY they WERE LDS.

I'm sorry your church have so many of them.

Originally Posted by Gramajane

I have had some who say they left believing and going to the church- (but they keep their membership-- their reasoning is in doubt to me) and then they go on line and seem to do all they can to destroy the church! Some have claimed they were taught things totally contrary to church teachings--and granted some might have some new member teacher that does not teach doctrine-- but to then *insist* that what false doctrine they were taught *is* official church doctrine- though it contradicts the canonized standard works (KJV Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, & Pearl of Great Price) -- is so (as my sons would say) lame and bogus!

Did they say anything inflammatory about the church? I met a few anti-mormons over at youtube and they absolutely hate the LDS church alleging that Joseph Smith was a Mason, the LDS is Masonic through and through with secret rites etc. One claimed that he was a former member and his reasoning for his attacks is that he doesn't want anyone else to be deceived. Is this the sort of stuff you hear coming out of those impostors?

Originally Posted by Gramajane

Anyway-- it only makes sense to me-- if someone is wanting to learn about LDS --
which is the re-established original Christian church--
that they will go to a reliable source- and be happy to find something that didn't feel right to them-- to NOT be right-- not keep insisting that LDS *must* believe something that we all say we don't! -- just because some anti book said we do believe something.

What are those thing they claimed the Mormons believed, but really don't?

Originally Posted by Gramajane

Anyway-- that is my two cents worth, from my own experiences with other.

It HAS been wonderful over the years to find someone who REALLY wants to know what we believe, and will believe that we believe what we say we do.

It has been so incredible to read/hear that some say that LDS have two different "doctrines" one that they SAY to non members that we believe, and another that we do believe-- sheeish-- how confusing would that be! It is hard enough to get the TRUE doctrines straight!

I love the gospel of Jesus Christ and have felt my life blessed the closer I follow His teachings. Gramajane

Does the church pass out cards or books disclaiming those doctrines that they've never advocated? Why has there been so many mistake doctrines?