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Old 09-16-2009, 10:37 AM
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Question The LDS view of ex-Mormons who become Christian

As an ex-Mormon, I'm trying to figure out exactly what view the LDS would deem my fate is in the afterlife, while I am a Christian? I don't subscribe to any organized religion, other than to call myself a Christian because I do believe Jesus Christ was God, and I do not believe in the BOM.

I'm getting all the ducks in a row before I send off my resignation letter, but this is one I can't find an answer to.

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It really isn't our opinion that matters. This is between you and God.
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Halfers is right. With prayer and a sincere, humble heart, you can find out your status with God on your own.
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Halfers is right. With prayer and a sincere, humble heart, you can find out your status with God on your own.
What I'm looking for isn't opinion, but some sort of official (if you want to call it that) position. If the LDS do baptism for the dead, they are offering the dead a chance to accept the LDS church. For those bron between 1AD and 1830 I understand this concept, but if I have been given the opportunity to accept the LDS church and was baptized a Mormon, but later reject the BOM yet believe in the bible, am I, per the Mormon doctrine, going to be cast into eternal darkness for doing so?

This is a big deal and I just want to know what I'm signing up for.

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Hrm I think there is a quote somewhere about how we are judged based on the amount of knowledge we are given before rejecting the gospel. And how sincere we are in our beliefs. Ms. Halfway and Funky are completely correct; only God can answer that question for you.

IF hypothetically you knew an awful lot about the church before joining and made an informed choice, then decided to reject it due to not having hometeachers (or some other minor offense of man), your judgement will/would be harsher than if you were baptized at 8, in an inactive family, decided you didn't care for the people and just left, never having a real testimony of the church.
Only God can look at your heart and see which type of scenario you fall into.
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What I'm looking for isn't opinion, but some sort of official (if you want to call it that) position. If the LDS do baptism for the dead, they are offering the dead a chance to accept the LDS church. For those bron between 1AD and 1830 I understand this concept, but if I have been given the opportunity to accept the LDS church and was baptized a Mormon, but later reject the BOM yet believe in the bible, am I, per the Mormon doctrine, going to be cast into eternal darkness for doing so?

This is a big deal and I just want to know what I'm signing up for.

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There isn't anything official. Because you are asking for something that is done by God at our final judgment. There are members of the church who don't believe in the church but don't have their names removed. Your situation is similar to them and the church has no official position on their fate or judgment.

No one knows the answer you are looking for. Whatever answers you get will be pure speculation and I seriously doubt any General Authority would even try to tell you a position.
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What I'm looking for isn't opinion, but some sort of official (if you want to call it that) position. If the LDS do baptism for the dead, they are offering the dead a chance to accept the LDS church. For those bron between 1AD and 1830 I understand this concept, but if I have been given the opportunity to accept the LDS church and was baptized a Mormon, but later reject the BOM yet believe in the bible, am I, per the Mormon doctrine, going to be cast into eternal darkness for doing so?

This is a big deal and I just want to know what I'm signing up for.

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You can look in the D&C and how it describes the inhabitants of the three kingdoms. You can know that we will be judged on our hearts and our level of spiritual knowledge. If one walks away from revealed truth and denies it out of vanity or pride or love of sin or some other reason, it would be logical to think that there would be consequences. Outer darkness is something else and you can look that up as well. Might be good to study hell and get a firm grasp of the LDS concept of it.

But at the end, I come back to my first answer. If truth is what you seek.....truth about doctrine and truth about yourself.....it is God that has those answers. He is the one who makes the final decisions about people and their lives and their hearts.


And you know....I wanted to add that walking away from the church isn't your only answer. If you have concerns about the BofM or other things, there are answers and supports and guidance to help you figure things out over time. Being LDS isn't an all or nothing kind of deal.
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This is very interesting!! You are a "Christian" but imply the LDS Church is not. And, you believe in Christ, not the B of M, another testament of Christ. I wonder if you want to deny the truthfulness of and restoration of the gospel, the authority of the priesthood and the latter-day prophets? If you really don't think any of this is true, why does it matter what the church states your eternal life would be? It’s not true, correct?? What's really the bottom line here? The gospel, the organization of the church, the idea that an uneducated boy of 15 could translate something like the Book of Mormon? Or, do you just feel more comfortable in, or is it easier to be a part of an evangelical church that has no boundaries or is guilt-free? And, by denying the church you can enter into another religion in full membership?
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Depending on how you live both here and in the afterlife, you will have the opportunity to go either to the Telestial Kingdom, or the Terrestrial Kingdom, which are both kingdoms of glory. But if you reject Christ and His sacrifice for you, then things will be a bit different..........
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This is a big deal and I just want to know what I'm signing up for.
Why is it a big deal from your perspective? One assumes if you are having your name removed from the records you do not believe the Church is true. Do you also wonder what Islam might have to say about your fate or Scientology? Quite frankly if the Church isn't true what it thinks may be your future fate for rejecting it is of no consequence, it is only of consequence if it is true. If you believe it is of consequence you might want to get your ducks in a row and decide things before you remove your name from the records.

Idle curiosity I can understand, and that may be what you mean and your usage of "big deal" is communicating something that isn't the case, but if you honestly think its a big deal religious wise you may want to spend some time in thought and prayer. Though if you are speaking in other senses other than religiously I can understand it being a big deal in that way. Depending on where you live and who your friends and family are, removing your name can be a big deal for cultural and relationship reasons that are completely independent of the Church being true or not.

P.S. An Ex-Mormon converting to a different Christian faith doesn't become Christian they already if they were Mormon, assuming they actually followed the tenets of their religion at some point, they just change what kind of Christian they are.
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