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11-07-2009, 03:03 PM
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T D Jakes?
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At Hillsong conference this year they are having T D Jakes, I'm curious as to your thoughts on him? (specifically his "onenss" leanings)
His churches websites defintely uses "manifestations" not "persons" in regards to the persons of the godhead.
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11-09-2009, 01:14 PM
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One could make the case that the Book of Mormon, especially the manuscript and first edition, could lead one to a "Oneness" interpretation of the nature of God.
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11-09-2009, 02:35 PM
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T. D. Jakes was raised in Oneness. He does not specifically teach it. However, my sense is that he respects the church and people of his upbringing, and so refuses to condemn them. Fundamentalist critics have tried to corner him by demanding that he denounce his spiritual heritage, or be labeled a Oneness proponent. It appears he does not feel obligated to answer people who seem to intend him no favors anyway.
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11-10-2009, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HillCumorahCC
One could make the case that the Book of Mormon, especially the manuscript and first edition, could lead one to a "Oneness" interpretation of the nature of God.
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I would also add that one could make a case for the "Pentecostal" part of "Oneness" using the Book of Mormon also...
The Nephites:
Clapped their hands for joy
Shouted for joy
Were "Slain in the Spirit"
Prayed to Jesus at times
I dare say if someone completely unaware of the traditional LDS form of worship and beliefs concerning the nature of God were to read the Book of Mormon, they would think it was written by a "Oneness Pentecostal".
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11-10-2009, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HillCumorahCC
I would also add that one could make a case for the "Pentecostal" part of "Oneness" using the Book of Mormon also...
The Nephites:
Clapped their hands for joy
Shouted for joy
Were "Slain in the Spirit"
Prayed to Jesus at times
I dare say if someone completely unaware of the traditional LDS form of worship and beliefs concerning the nature of God were to read the Book of Mormon, they would think it was written by a "Oneness Pentecostal".
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Well, someone ignorant of the verses that they sited anyways.
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11-10-2009, 07:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyB
PC,
At Hillsong conference this year they are having T D Jakes, I'm curious as to your thoughts on him? (specifically his "onenss" leanings)
His churches websites defintely uses "manifestations" not "persons" in regards to the persons of the godhead.
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As far as i,m concerned he is simply another nut case.
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11-10-2009, 09:41 PM
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As far as i,m concerned he is simply another nut case. 
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Okay...wow...that sure came out of nowhere. This is a man who speaks to thousands. He gets prisoners to connect with God. He speaks to women who've been abused/molested/trampled upon, and helps them find deliverence in Jesus.
Maybe you don't like his style, or something he's said. But "nutcase???" I'm not getting that.
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11-11-2009, 04:50 PM
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I don't know if he is a nut case...BUT, he does share the stage with some rather questionable men/ladies of the cloth on TBN. I read recently that he received a $200k Bentley from Paula White, whose Church, Without Walls is under some scrutiny because she and her former husband were a bit....dishonest?
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Bytor...financial excess and greed might be a worthy conversation...but I didn't have the impression that is what jadams was addressing.
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11-11-2009, 05:26 PM
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Bytor...financial excess and greed might be a worthy conversation...but I didn't have the impression that is what jadams was addressing.
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Not sure what Jadams was addressing...maybe he has this thread confused with current events and is making a very erudite comment that simple conservatives souls like you and I can't understand do to the progressive and enlightened nature of his vocabulary? Maybe?
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