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10-28-2006, 04:45 PM
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What makes Latter-day Saints Christians? That fact that we follow Christ, and claim Him as the head of our Church.
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Thank you for your answer. In response I'd like to say that I've heard this answer before. The fact of the matter is that the Mormon Church follows a different Christ, I mean, isn't that why every religion is different, because they all follow a different method of salvation?
For example, you cannot say you follow the same Christ as Christian science, yet they would make the same claim as the Mormon Church, that Christ is also the head of their church, but they have an entirely different method of salvation.
So, what I'm driving toward is that just because you follow your own Christ does not make you Christian....does this make sense?
Can anyone please tell me what makes the Mormon Church Christian?
thank you,
blazius
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10-28-2006, 06:23 PM
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Sorry, because you have a different interpretation of Christ than another church does does not make that one less Christian than your own. The whole "other Christ" argument is pure fallacy. You speak in quantitative terms when the differences are qualitative. We don't follow a "different Christ", we just view His characteristics differently than some churches do.
What makes Latter-day Saints Christians? That fact that we follow Christ, and claim Him as the head of our Church. Period.
Some reading:
http://www.mormon.org/learn/0,8672,802-1,00.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Christian.shtml
http://www.fairlds.org/apol/ai052.html
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/respons...eral/christians
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/b...rist/index.htm
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/...otherjesus.htm
http://www.fairlds.org/apol/ai035.html
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Blazius - could you please state how you are a christian, what attributes you have that make you a christian?
Thank you.
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Good point.
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10-28-2006, 07:22 PM
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As I christian, I would be happy to answer any questions you have about christian beliefs.
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Yes, I have a question: Please tell me what makes you a Christian.
thanks,
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JoshuaK hasn't been posting in awhile so it's difficult to say when he'll reply, just so you know blazius. By the way I see that you've state Religion as "seeking". Even though you're seeking for a religion, do you consider yourself a Christian blazius?
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10-29-2006, 10:23 AM
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JoshuaK hasn't been posting in awhile so it's difficult to say when he'll reply, just so you know blazius. By the way I see that you've state Religion as "seeking". Even though you're seeking for a religion, do you consider yourself a Christian blazius?
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Maureen, before I answer your question, please answer mine: Why are you, a Lutheran, participating on a Mormon forum?
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10-29-2006, 11:06 AM
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JoshuaK hasn't been posting in awhile so it's difficult to say when he'll reply, just so you know blazius. By the way I see that you've state Religion as "seeking". Even though you're seeking for a religion, do you consider yourself a Christian blazius?[/b]
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Maureen, before I answer your question, please answer mine: Why are you, a Lutheran, participating on a Mormon forum?[/b][/quote]
Even though I "asked you first", I will be considerate enough to answer. I've been posting at LDStalk for many years now. Initially, my motives were of a "I am right" and "you are wrong" philosophy. But due to the reading of many posters' thoughts here and at other forums, I've come to the conclusion that the "ability to decide for yourself" is more important than a debate between my interpretation of right and someone elses.
Also, I have a interest in Mormon history and my husband's family is Mormon, so I'm familiar with Mormon culture and community. I also enjoy the LDStalk community, there is a diverse goup of posters here, I enjoy the friendliness of the light-hearted threads and some of the more intense threads are quite intriguing.
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10-29-2006, 12:03 PM
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I also enjoy the LDStalk community, there is a diverse goup of posters here, I enjoy the friendliness of the light-hearted threads and some of the more intense threads are quite intriguing.
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Maureen, as a Lutheran (a denomination that has strikingly dissimilar core beliefs than Mormon beliefs) are you familiar with 2 Corinthians 6:14-18? If you are, can you please explain your harmonious involvement in a Mormon forum for well over three years now in light of the principles taught in 2 Cor 6:14-18?
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10-29-2006, 12:42 PM
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Maureen, as a Lutheran (a denomination that has strikingly dissimilar core beliefs than Mormon beliefs) are you familiar with 2 Corinthians 6:14-18? If you are, can you please explain your harmonious involvement in a Mormon forum for well over three years now in light of the principles taught in 2 Cor 6:14-18?[/b]
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You're hilarious blazius! I don’t see my affiliation with LDStalk as collaborating with the enemy (Satan). In fact I see my friendship with anyone of anyone religion as a friendship, with common interests and beliefs and concerns. You’re treading on dangerous ground by posing as a sincere “seeker” when in fact it looks like you really want to start a commotion.
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10-29-2006, 06:05 PM
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Blazius, just why are you here on LDS Talk?
From your intro post:
hello everyone! My name is blazius and I found this forum in an inadvertant way searching the internet. It looks fun here so I thought I'd join.
I'm not LDS, or anything really. I'm kind of searching right now, but since I live in Salt Lake City I find the Mormon influence kind of appealing, especially the emphasis on family.
I would like to get involved with some of the discussions here maybe just to solidify what direction I need to go. I hope its all okay.
you state that you are kind of searching - yet from the gist of your posts you are pretty much attacking.
From the post: Christian Beliefs, ask me a question ... post #20
I asked you:
<<snip>> Blazius - could you please state how you are a christian, what attributes you have that make you a christian? Thank you.
You have not answered that - will you please do so now.
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10-29-2006, 10:40 PM
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you state that you are kind of searching - yet from the gist of your posts you are pretty much attacking.
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You see, this is why I have a hard time understanding Mormons and desiring their church. Every time they are questioned, whether it be questioned in deep interest or in skepticism, the Mormon always reverts to the “martyr mode.”
I cannot even count how many times a Mormon has cried, “You’re attacking me!” just because I’m asking some heavy questions!!
Dr. T said to me in a private message, “you need to turn off the attack mode for a minute or you will be shut out before you get a chance to get whatever it is you are searching for from those that frequent this site.”
I’d like to ask you as I asked him, where am I attacking? Please show me one, single, solitary place I have attacked anyone!!! Come on, show me!
Is there anyone mature and civil enough to have a decent and heavy conversation with me without pointing a judgmental and defensive finger? It seems as though Maureen, Dr T, and MrsS cannot do it without crying that I'm attacking them!
thank you,
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10-29-2006, 11:19 PM
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Wow, you don't listen or take heed do you?
I predict that you are under the age of 27, you are male and you are not here to really learn. You enjoy baiting people and LDS are more often than not too polite to tell you to go pick another sandbox to play in.
You are not here to dialogue, to discuss or to learn. You are here Broadcasting. Big, big difference.
Change your tactics, change your tune - do like I suggested in another post to you and read ALL of the topics and posts on this forum, search the forum using BEFORE you start a topic to insure that it hasn't already been brought up, disussed and digested to the nth degree already.
Since there are three members who have told you to shape up and only ONE of them is LDS - perhaps you really should take heed and change your naughty ways.
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