Do I believe the wrong things?

[VisionOfLehi]

Originally Posted by Shell72

1: John 14:6 - Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

2: John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

3: Romans 10:9 - If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved

Saved does not equal attaining the highest degree of glory.

[Shell72]

Originally Posted by VisionOfLehi

Saved does not equal attaining the highest degree of glory.

I didn't see "highest level of glory" in his post.

[Shell72]

Originally Posted by WANDERER

Number 2: Yes, and religion isn't mentioned.
Number 3: Yes and if you believe it will follow that people will know you by your acts.
Number 1...I'm thinking of the model of prayer here.

Number 2 - No.. "religion" isn't mentioned. The only way is believing that Jesus is your Savior. I believe "religion" is manmade and not of God. What everyone should be striving for is a personal relationship with the One who matters.

Number 3 - Yes people will know by our acts - but I believe we also have a responsibility ( not a requirement to get to Heaven) to do God's work while we are on earth.

Number 1 - yup - wouldn't be referred to as a "model prayer" for no reason

[MorningStar]

Hi Wanderer,

I don't know if anyone gave you the link yet, but you can read The Book of Mormon here: Book of Mormon

[JonboySquarepants]

VISIONOFLEHI wrote that "Saved does not equal attaining the highest degree of glory."

what does 'saved' mean to you?

[PentiumInside]

Originally Posted by JonboySquarepants

VISIONOFLEHI wrote that "Saved does not equal attaining the highest degree of glory."

what does 'saved' mean to you?

The term "saved" is a way to describe "God has a place for me thats not hell" by people who don't yet know about the plan of salvation.

[Shell72]

Originally Posted by PentiumInside

The term "saved" is a way to describe "God has a place for me thats not hell" by people who don't yet know about the plan of salvation.

Isn't that how God describes it as well?

Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Mark 16 *14 -16

[PentiumInside]

The subsequesnt knowledge gained from not only the the "First Vision" but from other modern revelation as well, led me to RE-READ and RE-DISCOVER the subject in the Bible and found that it makes perfect sense and strengthens my testimony in the church.

The term "saved" can be applied in many different circumstances. To try and define it as a black and white definition and apply it homogeneously across the scriptures will not only lead to confusion but is a mistake. If a scripture said " And Jesus saved Peter from the lion before he went home and saved 5 dollars." was real, would that change peoples unequivocal definition? We all know that many different man wrote the many different scriptures we hold to be true and they spoke in different manners and even in different languages. It is safe to say that the SAVE-ior ( Savior) can and will indeed "save" you. If anything more than that confuses you then stick to what you know and continue to read and pray .

My $0.02

[Shell72]

Originally Posted by PentiumInside

The subsequesnt knowledge gained from not only the the "First Vision" but from other modern revelation as well, led me to RE-READ and RE-DISCOVER the subject in the Bible and found that it makes perfect sense and strengthens my testimony in the church.

The term "saved" can be applied in many different circumstances. To try and define it as a black and white definition and apply it homogeneously across the scriptures will not only lead to confusion but is a mistake. If a scripture said " And Jesus saved Peter from the lion before he went home and saved 5 dollars." was real, would that change peoples unequivocal definition? We all know that many different man wrote the many different scriptures we hold to be true and they spoke in different manners and even in different languages. It is safe to say that the SAVE-ior ( Savior) can and will indeed "save" you. If anything more than that confuses you then stick to what you know and continue to read and pray .

My $0.02

In the Bible it is referred to time and time again that unless "saved" souls will be condemed to death. When someone speaks of getting Saved, within their faith, I think we can all agree that they are not confusing this with saving 5 dollars, and being saved from lions. Semantics aside, Our Savior Saves our Souls from damnation as stated in the Bible many times over.

[PentiumInside]

Our Savior Saves our Souls from damnation as stated in the Bible many times over.

Thats very true. How it happens, where you go when your "saved", and why He does it though are not thoroughly addressed in the Bible( or BoM for that matter) and should not be blanketed with "saved=living with God for eternity the minute you die/Jesus returns"