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04-08-2008, 06:06 PM
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y-Chromosome biggest threat
'The y-chromosome is the biggest threat to humanity'
Published: 10 Dec 07 12:02 CET
Online: The Local - 'The y-chromosome is the biggest threat to humanity'
You made it pretty clear in a press conference what you think is posing the biggest threat to human kind. What is that?
The y-chromosome. Some boys are more aggressive. We associate war and violence with that. I believe we need to teach our boys not to solve their problems by fighting.
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Reason: Oliver Smithies is one of three winners of this year's Nobel Prize in Medicine
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04-08-2008, 06:17 PM
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i kind of think he is right if we do not train our boys in the right direction they do languish.
-Charley
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04-08-2008, 06:29 PM
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I recall from my Human Growth and Development class that my professor stated that boys are quite fragile. They NEED proper care and role models as they grow up in and that they need environments where they aren't penalized for simply being boys. Boys and girls are different, it's as simple as that. He went on to say that current U.S. classrooms aren't the best fit for the typical boy. After reading more on the subject, I'm inclined to agree with him.
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04-08-2008, 06:36 PM
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I recall from my Human Growth and Development class that my professor stated that boys are quite fragile. They NEED proper care and role models as they grow up in and that they need environments where they aren't penalized for simply being boys. Boys and girls are different, it's as simple as that. He went on to say that current U.S. classrooms aren't the best fit for the typical boy. After reading more on the subject, I'm inclined to agree with him.
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I agree ours in the UK are no better it has been shown boys taught in single sex classrooms fare much better - its number 1 reason my boy is not going to school
-Charley
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04-08-2008, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Moksha
'The y-chromosome is the biggest threat to humanity'
Published: 10 Dec 07 12:02 CET
Online: The Local - 'The y-chromosome is the biggest threat to humanity'
You made it pretty clear in a press conference what you think is posing the biggest threat to human kind. What is that?
The y-chromosome. Some boys are more aggressive. We associate war and violence with that. I believe we need to teach our boys not to solve their problems by fighting.
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It has also been said that every war was started by (or over) a PRIEST or a WOMAN. So, by this fellow's logic, I suppose we could also bring world peace by eliminating religion and killing the fairer sex.
Not that I disagree with teaching boys how to resolve conflicts appropriately, but to blame all of our problems on male aggressiveness is not only futile, but silly. And I would also recomend that make a few changes in the behavior we teach our girls as well. Personally I'd like to completely rebuild our education system from the ground up....
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04-08-2008, 11:14 PM
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Perhaps the y-chromosome is an even bigger threat to manhood.
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04-09-2008, 04:44 AM
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I had a professor who posed the question to his class as to what change in human evolution would they make and then they had to answer what the consequences of this would be. He actually was not an evolutionist and wanted people to think.
Now consider what kind of people we would have if we trained the agressiveness out of boys as a whole. This has been a goal of the Swedish educational system for years. And on the whole you'll find more metrosexual males in Sweden than just about anyplace else. One of my sons is the most chauvanistic males you will find -- in fact, most of his friends (he is attending college in Sweden now) are not Swede but are Slavs, Iranians or Arabs. The only problem my son had in high school was being stalked by Swedish girls -- they had an instant attraction to a guy who acted more manly. This may explain why so many Swedish females marry American, British, Slavic or Muslim men -- they have resisted the Swedish tendency of conformity and androgeny.
So that's the irony isn't it? Males who act masculine attract females, males who get all Hugh Granty (film archetype) get lots of girl FRIENDS (the kind of friends you go shopping for a new handbag with, but not go on a date with).
By the way -- some evidence that females can be just as nasty as males: Don't blame YouTube, MySpace for teen beating video - Machinist - Salon.com
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04-09-2008, 05:09 AM
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Now consider what kind of people we would have if we trained the agressiveness out of boys as a whole. This has been a goal of the Swedish educational system for years. And on the whole you'll find more metrosexual males in Sweden than just about anyplace else. One of my sons is the most chauvanistic males you will find -- in fact, most of his friends (he is attending college in Sweden now) are not Swede but are Slavs, Iranians or Arabs. The only problem my son had in high school was being stalked by Swedish girls -- they had an instant attraction to a guy who acted more manly. This may explain why so many Swedish females marry American, British, Slavic or Muslim men -- they have resisted the Swedish tendency of conformity and androgeny.
So that's the irony isn't it? Males who act masculine attract females, males who get all Hugh Granty (film archetype) get lots of girl FRIENDS (the kind of friends you go shopping for a new handbag with, but not go on a date with).
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Thats because men aren't the only idiots in the human race - my husband is beautiful, his gentleness is what makes him a good man. His aggressiveness is his least attractive quality in my eyes, women now he is married and see what a good husband he is are now very attracted to him.
And my Father has been a meterosexual since the 1950s - he has had 2 wives, 3 full time relationships, and countless others on the side, he has no bother attracting women, including women nearly 40 years his junior. I have 3 brothers all meterosexual, my older 2 are now happilly married (the eldest is on number wife number 2 and has 5 kids), my youngest brother has at 27 had 2 long term relationships, and has slept with more men and women than Cassanova. They don't to seem to have trouble initially attracting people. Their problem is a massive addiction to sleeping with people. My Gay best friend would have had no bother getting married to a woman he had at least 3 offers I know of (I didn't bother lol), I also know women named their children after him because thats the way they wanted their sons.
And Hugh Grant hmm has had Elizabeth Hurley and Jemima Khan not bad going  Liz Hurley is tramp but heck I am a woman and find Jemima Khan really attractive
-Charley
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I see where Fiannan is going here (or at least I think I do). I see nothing wrong with men being kind, gentle, etc., but we are hard wired to be more rough, I think. Too many people (mainly women, more particularly those women that think there are NO differences between men and women except for some equipment) think that men need to quit acting like men, and it does create confusion.
I can't imagine Hugh Grant with dirty fingernails from taking an engine out of the car, or spending all day digging posts for the new deck, etc. To me, that part of manhood (the ability to 'do it yourself') is being lost, which is sad. And I blame women for it (a minority, to be sure, but still). I know my wife appreciates that I will fix anything around the house, even though I get filthy sometimes doing it and mess up her kitchen. I think that women are hard wired to find those men that can take care of them more attractive than some 'pretty boy' (Liz Hurley aside!)
Sisters, if you are able to , spend some time watching how men interact with each other. Some of the jokes that they throw at each other would make a woman weep and feel offended, and a man will laugh his behind off because it was funny, even if it was at his expense. Happens a lot in PH meeting. I had a Bishop several lives ago state 'women will never forget if you say the wrong thing and carry a grudge to the grave, but the men will go out and have a beer afterward'.
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04-09-2008, 05:54 PM
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This may explain why so many Swedish females marry American, British, Slavic or Muslim men -- they have resisted the Swedish tendency of conformity and androgeny.
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Hmmm, so our love life would inprove with black leather boots and carrying a Colt 45, eh?
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