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05-30-2008, 03:25 PM
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FLDS: Photos heat up Texas court fight - Salt Lake Tribune The Kiss Of Jeffs - May 27, 2008 They have since obscured her face in the photos and changed her name to protect her status as a twelve year old minor.
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05-30-2008, 03:30 PM
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05-30-2008, 03:36 PM
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05-30-2008, 04:12 PM
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Arresting one specific person for a specific case which can be investigated and probably/possibly proved is one thing - deciding on the strength of that and one unsubstantiated phone-call that the whole community was abusing their children is an entirely different thing.
Incidentally the girl in Warren Jeff's arms doesn't look like she is objecting to his embrace. However, if she is/was only 12 then I agree that he should not have 'married' her that young whether the marriage was consumated or not.
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05-31-2008, 04:41 AM
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I have just received an email from my cousin in California with links to a newspaper article in which there are some letters from Hill Country Community Mental Health-Mental Retardation Center staff, in San Angelo, Texas who 'assisted FLDS victims of CPS abuse in San Angelo shelters'. I don't know if it's possible or permissible to put the link on here but those reports just made me cry. The way the women and children were herded and treated is exactly like the way the Nazis treated the concentration camp victims when rounding them up and the conditions they were forced to live in. That was not a misguided comment earlier by another board member. How can a civilised country behave in this manner?
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06-01-2008, 04:51 PM
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Thank goodness the court wasn't so flippant about the ages of children when Warren Jeffs was convicted of FORCING A 14 YEAR OLD TO MARRY HER COUSIN. Come on now people, lets use some common sense here. Jeffs is a child predator and abuser, period. Time used to defend his honor is time wasted. Back on topic, i'm glad the children were returned. I'm sure there is abuse going on in some of those homes, but I highly doubt every adult in that compound is guilty of it. It's too bad that they were treated as guilty when only a select few are or were. On another note, the men gave a tour through the ranch to Larry King's show.I don't understand why they still have pictures of Jeffs all over the inside of their compound buildings. He admitted to his brother on camera that he lied about being the prophet. So why do they still hold him as such?
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06-01-2008, 05:28 PM
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How did he mean lie about being the prophet? Who is their prophet then? Or do you mean there actually isn't one? It's so frustrating when I can only get news second hand. There is so much we don't hear about over here.
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06-02-2008, 04:48 PM
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Did you know she admitted in her book her lover was an embittered ex-FLDS "looking to take Warren Jeff's down"? And she only left her husband and came up with this story after having this ongoing affair and speaking with her lover's friends (who were also ex-FLDS)? You need to learn to get ALL the facts before making such rash judgments. Stay out of public office please. Flora was never married off in the FLDS Carolyn was NOT a child bride, she was 18
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06-02-2008, 04:51 PM
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I never thought he was, so I could care less. The still need proof of their allegations about the families at YFZ, and they haven't come up with any.
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06-02-2008, 05:15 PM
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Mohammed married a girl when she was 9 years old (although did not have relations with her until she reached puberty). He was not a child molester.
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