Violent England?

[Fiannan]

Two youths were seen wearing niqab-style face masks and wielding a sword after a 14-year-old boy was stabbed, locals have claimed.
One was heard to say 'I'm going to kill him' as the pair walked calmly down a residential street chatting at about midday yesterday.
The schoolboy was knifed in the chest just yards away at 5pm on Tuesday.
He collapsed in a pool of blood in front of drinkers outside a pub as they enjoyed an after work pint.
A terrified local, who saw the sword-wielding teens but did not want to be named, said: 'I saw two boys wearing Muslim women's headgear but normal clothes otherwise and you could see only their eyes.
'One of them was carrying a sword with a huge blade over a foot long which looked like something you would use to gut a lamb.
'I saw them and my heart was gone. I've never been so terrified.
'Although I could only see their eyes I could see their hands as well and they were two black boys, tall, probably about six feet and I would guess they were 16 or 17 years old.'
They were less than 50 yards from the Tabard Garden Estate in Southwark, South East London, when the boy was attacked after a row among teenagers on an astro-turf football pitch in a park.
The pair were spotted by a number of locals going into a block of flats right by the scene of the stabbing.
Another local who did not wish to be named said: 'They were just walking up the street calmly chatting in the middle of the day while they wearing masks and openly carrying a blade.
'I heard one say to the other "I'm going to kill him." It was completely unbelievable, I've never seen anything like it, what is this country coming to?

Boy, 14, fights for life after being stabbed in football game row by sword-wielding youths in niqabs | Mail Online

Wow, when did England become so violent? Seems there are an increasing number of stories like this from there. I remember when I was a kid being surprised that cops there did not carry weapons -- I guess those days are long past.

[Hemidakota]

Hmm...no guns but still resulting to other weapons to maim or kill each other.

[Bookmeister]

Violent Movies, television shows, video games, lack of morals, no fear of punishment........I suppose the list goes on and on.

[SmilingRedhead]

Yes, there is an epidemic of youth stabbings going on here in England... It's become the norm for gangs to carry knives and lash out and stab in confrontations.

I think it's about 16 young people that have been stabbed to death since the beginning of this year... It's a huge problem and very scary too.

[Palerider]

When I was there from 79-81 on my mission we had to look out for the Skinheads and Punk Rockers....never had any issues unless it was 5 or more to just 2 of us. We had some interesting expierences with them.

[Moksha]

Originally Posted by SmilingRedhead

Yes, there is an epidemic of youth stabbings going on here in England... It's become the norm for gangs to carry knives and lash out and stab in confrontations.

That's right, you don't allow semi-automatic weapons like we do in the states. Without them you can never experience the terror of drive-by shootings - the knives are just not long enough for drive by stabbings.

Its not the guns that kill people here, its the bullets. I think that is the the gun lobby's slogan.

[Fiannan]

Originally Posted by Palerider

When I was there from 79-81 on my mission we had to look out for the Skinheads and Punk Rockers....never had any issues unless it was 5 or more to just 2 of us. We had some interesting expierences with them.

Yeah, my wife has a good friend whose son was serving a mission in England until some skinheads beat him so severely he almost died. Not sure why they focused on him unless they could tell he was ethnically Jewish. On the other hand, the attack described at the start of the thread appears to be a hate crime against a white kid by non-whites (probably Muslim). There are parts of England now that whites just know they should not venture into. However, the same goes for the USA. A friend of mine who is Iranian mentioned that his brother was visiting St. Louis a couple of years ago and the police pulled him over as he was approaching a particular section of town. Mind you, this family looks, well, like light Mexicans or maybe darker southern Italians, but the policeman told him he was the "wrong color" to be going into that section of town towards late afternoon/early evening. This was done for his safety.

[john doe]

Yeah, good thing the Brits disarmed themselves so that only the criminals have weapons. Good thinking, guys.

[pushka]

Some police units over here do have weapons/guns etc. There has been controversy over their 'shoot to kill' policy on occasion..(following the Tube station bombings in London when a person was shot dead by police who, apparently, thought he might be a terrorist).

Gun and knife attacks, drive by shootings, are become more of a norm over here, particularly in cities where gangs are predominant. Unfortunately we do appear to be becoming more like the USA in that respect...

I still believe in gun controls, my daughter did comment the other night that the right to have a gun in your house, to protect yourself against violent burglars might be acceptable, but not to be allowed to just roam the streets with weapons, that's just asking for trouble...

There is a documentary showing here some time this week called Disarming Britain, about the current crisis..should be interesting.

[Aphrodite]

Yeah, good thing the Brits disarmed themselves so that only the criminals have weapons. Good thinking, guys.

Actually the police do carry weapons. Here in Luton they are so weighed down by gear its a wonder they can even walk. They walk around with these huge rifle things, stab and bullet proof vests and all sorts of other stuff. They have these guns at airports too. In London at new year they were on horse back with bullet shields and headgear. We have a weapons amnesty here too outside the police station. Knife crime is a big problem here at the min. Its very scary indeed.

We do have guns here, theres lots of gun crime at the minute with several high profle shootings-in fact some poor girl was shot and killed at a party last week. So although stabbings and beatings are more common, there are still guns too.