|
|
You are not logged into the site. Please login or signup.
|
| Notices |
Welcome to the LDS.net forums. If you are a member of LDS.net, please login now. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
|

11-05-2008, 12:56 AM
|
 |
Head Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: United States -
Posts: 21,692
Thanks: 2,782
Thanked 4,091 Times in 2,542 Posts
Laughs: 1,653
Laughs at 3,834 Times in 1,677 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by skalenfehl
Yes, he said that people can start a coal company, but that it would bankrupt them and that your electricity will go up. He said this two days ago. But that's not the point of this topic. 
|
Well in a way it is the point of this topic. You asked how Obama's win would affect us. I would have to agree with JD. I see the price of gas reversing to going on the upslide instead of the downslide we have enjoyed the last couple of months.
__________________
Please visit my new website I've adopted through TheMoreGoodFoundation. I just started it so it's very much a work in progress and will continue to be so.
www.ldsplace.com
|

11-05-2008, 05:39 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 2,080
Thanks: 52
Thanked 1,295 Times in 636 Posts
Laughs: 32
Laughs at 363 Times in 164 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starfish
Too many people think Obama is going to CHANGE their lives. If you are one of these people, you need to realize that Obama simply doesn't have the power to change your life. Only you have that power. And you are still you. If you want your life to change, you'll have to do it yourself.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey
I disagree. I see most people being very realistic about just what a president can and cannot do. However a strong leader can motivate and move people to make those changes for themselves and their communities...something Bush failed to accomplish hands down. A strong ability to inspire...that is my hope for Obama.
|
Obama has two strengths that really cater to a promising future. First, he listens very well. You really ought to read his books and review some of the legislation he's really wanted to make happen. He has a knack for getting opposing sides together, bringing them to agreement on a common goal, and then helping them come to some kind of an agreement that brings both sides closer to that goal. Quite simply, the legislative branch is the wrong place for this man. He belongs in an executive role trying to hammer out these deal.
His second strength is his oratory skills. The man knows how to write and he knows how to appeal to others. You can see this in the volunteer force that he inspired, which seems to be of record size. You don't make that happen without inspiring people. And that kind of volunteer force is very much a grassroots change. The man convinced people that they could change their own lives. He'll continue to do that as president.
My last comment: those of you who are afraid he will break campaign promises should actually be praying that he'll break campaign promises. If he does any promise breaking, he'll break toward the middle. He does not like a divided America, and a 51% vs 49% vote or whatever this election turned out to be does not meet his standard of unity.
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to MarginOfError For This Useful Post:
|
|

11-05-2008, 06:25 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 1,249
Thanks: 435
Thanked 493 Times in 286 Posts
Laughs: 57
Laughs at 246 Times in 126 Posts
|
|
The wife and i were planning to leave the military.Leave behind socialized medicine and working for myself. I think we're going to be lifers now.
|

11-05-2008, 07:18 AM
|
 |
Head Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: United States -
Age: 50
Posts: 15,588
Thanks: 970
Thanked 1,187 Times in 853 Posts
Laughs: 1,568
Laughs at 1,174 Times in 709 Posts
|
|
This will cost me more take home money with him in office...more taxes....I don't want socialized medicine(you get what you pay for) I have seen how it works and its not for me....anyone can make a good speech...now lets get to work.
__________________
As Long As I Am Here......It Doesn't Matter Where Here Is.....
All great change in America begins at the dinner table......Ronald Reagan
Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets.....Ronald Reagan
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Palerider For This Useful Post:
|
|

11-05-2008, 08:34 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 3,065
Thanks: 410
Thanked 1,037 Times in 626 Posts
Laughs: 28
Laughs at 55 Times in 24 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by pam
Well in a way it is the point of this topic. You asked how Obama's win would affect us. I would have to agree with JD. I see the price of gas reversing to going on the upslide instead of the downslide we have enjoyed the last couple of months.
|
You're right, Pam and John Doe, of course. Still I was looking for the specific policies that won people over and causing their elation and woo-hoos. I mean, I like the guy. He's likable. He served the community for some time and that's a noble deed. And he is an inspiring orator who campaigned brilliantly. I should have been more specific in my initial post. I'm not knocking President Elect Obama at all and I hope I was very clear about it. As a conservative independent, I just want to understand better the democratic/liberal mind. I patiently wait.
__________________
"No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done" (History of the Church, 4:540).
|

11-05-2008, 08:36 AM
|
 |
Head Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: United States -
Posts: 5,222
Thanks: 66
Thanked 1,424 Times in 784 Posts
Laughs: 15
Laughs at 551 Times in 259 Posts
|
|
Pale, it won't cost you more in taxes unless you make more than 250K or was that 200K or was it 150K or was it 42K. I think we will see a tax increase for those making 50K or more. I think that there will be govt. checks to those who make less than 50K even if they pay no taxes. We, the govt, will be paying checks to people who pay no taxes. Supplement their income. Incentive to make less to get the tax refund.
An Obama presidency will cost me more in taxes and hamper my small business.
Ben Raines
__________________
"If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties." Sir Francis Bacon
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to BenRaines For This Useful Post:
|
|

11-05-2008, 08:43 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: United States -
Posts: 3,212
Thanks: 76
Thanked 961 Times in 519 Posts
Laughs: 9
Laughs at 91 Times in 49 Posts
|
|
I hope Obama completely cuts hard toward a quick pull of the plug on the occupation of Iraq. If we can get the heck out of there, we can restore peace to the region and get some serious ease for our national spending troubles. I just hope the dems don't blow all the possible savings on their socialist agenda.
-a-train
|

11-05-2008, 08:58 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 3,065
Thanks: 410
Thanked 1,037 Times in 626 Posts
Laughs: 28
Laughs at 55 Times in 24 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by a-train
I hope Obama completely cuts hard toward a quick pull of the plug on the occupation of Iraq. If we can get the heck out of there, we can restore peace to the region and get some serious ease for our national spending troubles. I just hope the dems don't blow all the possible savings on their socialist agenda.
-a-train
|
I agree the war needs to end, but it needs to end resolved. As for spending, we already know there will be a lot of spending, up to one trillion to be exact, during his term (to afford his tax credit policies) that would put the budget deficit at $520 billion by 2013 compared to the presently projected deficit of $147 billion. But alas, he needs to afford all the tax cuts and credits so indeed we will all likely see some kind of boon, but at the expense of our children's future. He never promised to balance the budget.
Obama's Spending Cuts - Fact Checker
__________________
"No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done" (History of the Church, 4:540).
Last edited by skalenfehl; 11-05-2008 at 09:12 AM.
|

11-05-2008, 09:15 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 11,945
Thanks: 3,060
Thanked 2,529 Times in 1,833 Posts
Laughs: 494
Laughs at 265 Times in 185 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by skalenfehl
So we are all from different backgrounds and stations in life. Some of us are starting out in life, some are full time students, some of us are business owners, some of us are retiring and on a fixed income, etc.
What is your story and how will Barack Obama's policies affect you and your personal situation for better or for worse? Please be objective.
|
Most of those I have contacted in the military, see it is a return to a Clinton era...
|

11-05-2008, 09:41 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: United States -
Posts: 285
Thanks: 101
Thanked 170 Times in 92 Posts
Laughs: 1
Laughs at 2 Times in 2 Posts
|
|
Neither candidate could have done what they promised. They say what they know we want to hear. They have to, unfortunately. I guess because the public can't stand to hear the truth.
There is no money for national health care. All the problems that HELPED get Obama elected, now become HIS problems.
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
New Posts
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:08 PM.
|