Hamas a fanatical hate group.

[jimuk]

Originally Posted by MarginOfError

Unfortunately, the best solution isn't possible: go back and time and prevent the moronic decision to give a displaced people a place to call home by displacing another people. Okay, all you Palestinians. Up and leave. We've decided that the Jews get to have your land. What!? You have a problem with that? That's outrageous!

The creation of Israel wasn't exactly one of the brightest moments in our history was it?

You are 100% correct, the best solution is not going to happen, so it will never truly end until one people destroy the other.

[Fiannan]

Wasn't it true that the Arabs announced, when Israel was granted its territory, that all the Arabs should leave because the combined armies of 5 Arab nations were going to destroy Israel and Arabs should get out and let them do it -- and they could return after the job was done? The Israelies then granted citizenship to the Arabs who did not leave but revoked any citizenship rights for the Arabs that did leave?

Of course the Arabs got beaten by the Jews who were getting help from the USA and Russia in regrds to arms and intelligence.

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

Originally Posted by jimuk

If Israel know that Hamas hide themselves among civillians, are they themselves not guilty of targeting these civillians along with the targeting of Hamas, just being logical lol.

No, they are not. One reason this conflict wasn't over a decade ago, is Israel keeps letting it's leaders escape as it tries to avoid civilian death. When they find a place where Hamas is located, Israel inform the people in the area they will be bombing soon.

It really is that black and white. Hamas targets civilians on purpose. Israel often lets the bad guy get away because an attack might jeopardize innocent Palestinians.

LM

[jadams_4040]

Originally Posted by Fiannan

RonRosenbaum.com Some Differences Between Hamas and the Nazi Party

It is ironic that much of the socialistic media in Europe presents Hamas as a group merely fighting for liberation and against some sort of extremism of Israel yet rarely looks into what the organization stands for -- or the fact that Hamas purposly locates its weapons in civilian areas so that when Hamas murders innocent Israeli citizens ,and then is forced to target those missiles, innocent Palestinians will be killed.

A big difference between Hamas and Israel is that Hamas purposely targets men, weoman and children who are Jewish while Israel does its best to avoid killing civilians.

Lets remember; there are Always two sides to everything! {always}

[a-train]

Originally Posted by Godless

And the irony of the whole thing is that after that we eventually let the Palestinians have a free election. Then we were shocked and appalled when they voted Hamas into power.

This just in, American politicians like democracy... ...if and only if the vote goes the way they want it too, this is.

-a-train

[a-train]

Originally Posted by Loudmouth_Mormon

No, they are not. One reason this conflict wasn't over a decade ago, is Israel keeps letting it's leaders escape as it tries to avoid civilian death. When they find a place where Hamas is located, Israel inform the people in the area they will be bombing soon.

It really is that black and white. Hamas targets civilians on purpose. Israel often lets the bad guy get away because an attack might jeopardize innocent Palestinians.

LM

Yeah, Israel should just nuke Gaza and get it all over with.

What seems very improbable to me is that a man can get close enough to fire a rocket from his shoulder into an Israeli community and Israeli troops cannot get to him on the ground, they must resort to blowing the whole block away. It's not like these targets are tanks or helicopters, they are men with small arms.

-a-train

[Loudmouth_Mormon]

Originally Posted by a-train

Yeah, Israel should just nuke Gaza and get it all over with.

Dang, A-train - are you feeling ok? I've noticed a slew of these comments in your posts in the last few weeks. I seem to remember a time when you could engage in conversation without the use of glaringly obvious bizzarro strawmen. Now it's standard fare with you.

What seems very improbable to me is that a man can get close enough to fire a rocket from his shoulder into an Israeli community and Israeli troops cannot get to him on the ground, they must resort to blowing the whole block away. It's not like these targets are tanks or helicopters, they are men with small arms.

One guy with a missile on his shoulder in an urban area has a ton of advantages against a far superior force. I'm guessing it seems improbable to you because you don't have a good grasp on how such things work. Just a suggestion, but if you could stomach a few Tom Clancy novels, it might open your eyes a bit to the realities of warfare. (Yes, he writes fiction. He also takes great pains to fill his fictional stories with the realities of organizations, capabilities, and equipment.)

LM

[Fiannan]

Originally Posted by jadams_4040

Lets remember; there are Always two sides to everything! {always}

True, and it's even more complicated than that. For instance, the article I linked to deals with a prophesy in the Hadith dealing with the destruction of the Jews. Now that makes things complicated. Surfing around Islamic sites I am left witht he question as to who they believe will destroy the Jews and how many will perish. I guess some interpret it to mean that in the latter days the Muslims would have to destroy the Jews in order for Jesus to return. Then there's the more moderate idea that when Jesus returns that before he kills the anti-Christ he will destroy the anti-Christ's Jewish army. Then I had a Muslim woman explain to me an even more liberal veiw that in the end only non-believing Jews would be destroyed.

This leaves me with a few other questions. Islam believes that in the latter days Muslims and Christains will unite and destroy all non-believers. At some point then Jesus returns and smashes a cross and demands conformity to Islam. Half the Christain armies convert and the other half rebels. Of course they are defeated, Jesus marries and lives out His mortal existence, dies and is buried next to Mohammed.

Yes, a bit confusing. I am left to wonder what interpretation Hamas follows since Rosenbaum seems to promote the idea that Hamas believes in the total extermination of Jews (which goes way beyond what Hitler promoted -- as the author states -- and one thing the author didn't point out as well is there were Jews serving in high levels of Hitler's government and in his military). Doubt Hamas has any Jewish members.

[Hemidakota]

This must the fourth thread that is currently serving the same topic.

[FunkyTown]

Originally Posted by Hemidakota

This must the fourth thread that is currently serving the same topic.

We must move forward, not backwards! Upwards, not forwards and twirling... Always twirling for FREEDOM! - Kodos