Chavez to Castro: 'Comrade' Obama Farther Left Than Us

[bytor2112]

"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right," Chavez joked on a live television broadcast.

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[utcowboy]

Signs of the times.....

[Palerider]

former Pres Bush made them do it....

[FunkyTown]

To be fair, Chavez said the thing that would be calculated to hurt the US more than anything else and to help his cause.

Hugo Chavez is a communist.

The US nationalized a private institution that was a bastion of capitalism.

Hugo Chavez hates the US.

Hugo Chavez said something designed to make it to the US newspapers.


Hugo Chavez is the mouse that roared, an anti-American head of a tiny country. He's a plucky li'l psycho who's oozing confidence at this apparent failure of the American system.

I can say that a nationalized company isn't necessarily a bad thing. The US needs to develop it's production facilities and needs to be able to maintain a ready armed forces. Since the US has piecemeal been selling off its manufacturing assets for the past fifty years, I worry for the US' armed forces.

However, I am mystified at the stupidity of taking a company that has failed utterly to produce what the marketplace wants and nationalizing the debt. Why, in the name of all that is holy, would anyone buy a failing company and then let the people who caused it to fail to keep running it?

[Lamayana]

Originally Posted by FunkyTown

To be fair, Chavez said the thing that would be calculated to hurt the US more than anything else and to help his cause.

Hugo Chavez is a communist.

The US nationalized a private institution that was a bastion of capitalism.

Hugo Chavez hates the US.

Hugo Chavez said something designed to make it to the US newspapers.


Hugo Chavez is the mouse that roared, an anti-American head of a tiny country. He's a plucky li'l psycho who's oozing confidence at this apparent failure of the American system.

I can say that a nationalized company isn't necessarily a bad thing. The US needs to develop it's production facilities and needs to be able to maintain a ready armed forces. Since the US has piecemeal been selling off its manufacturing assets for the past fifty years, I worry for the US' armed forces.

However, I am mystified at the stupidity of taking a company that has failed utterly to produce what the marketplace wants and nationalizing the debt. Why, in the name of all that is holy, would anyone buy a failing company and then let the people who caused it to fail to keep running it?

Honestly speaking, I do not understand how someone claiming to be speaking in the name of Jesus Christ can spread so much nonsense in such a short virtual space. If you haven't noticed, Venezuelan President Chavez has improved the popular resources for the equal access to education among the most poor in the Venezuelan society. He was taken to power by a majority of the Venezuelan popular vote. During the years he has been in government, people of the poorest sectors have obtained better living standards and many are hoping now to return to their countries of origin for the realization of a true and more fair American Dream. Stop insulting other countries' elected officials and rise to your proper stature as a representative of a culture that is crying for wisdom from the shadow of an empire.

[FunkyTown]

Originally Posted by Lamayana

Honestly speaking, I do not understand how someone claiming to be speaking in the name of Jesus Christ can spread so much nonsense in such a short virtual space. If you haven't noticed, Venezuelan President Chavez has improved the popular resources for the equal access to education among the most poor in the Venezuelan society. He was taken to power by a majority of the Venezuelan popular vote. During the years he has been in government, people of the poorest sectors have obtained better living standards and many are hoping now to return to their countries of origin for the realization of a true and more fair American Dream. Stop insulting other countries' elected officials and rise to your proper stature as a representative of a culture that is crying for wisdom from the shadow of an empire.

I'm not certain what you're saying here. You obviously disagree with me, so go ahead and let me know what you're disagreeing with:

1) Hugo Chavez dislikes America.

Are you saying that he doesn't dislike America?

2) Hugo Chavez is Communistic.

Are you saying he isn't Communistic?

3) He's a plucky li'l psycho who's oozing confidence.

I'm betting this was what you had issue with. If that's the case, I apologize for having offended you. Well, he's certainly 'Plucky' because he amended the Constitution of Venezuela to sidestep term limits. This is the beginning of a tyranny.

Is he psycho? Anti-Chavez student demonstrators were ambushed by masked gunmen. Hugo Chavez said, “They generally take the path of fascist violence and confront the laws and the people, and they are always looking to the Pentagon, high-ranking generals,”. Yes. Saying that students deserved to be shot and beaten by thugs is psychotic.

Maybe it was 'Oozing Confidence?' Regardless, I didn't claim to speak for Jesus Christ when I insulted Chavez. He has certainly redressed some economic concerns. This does not make him a good man. I apologize that you felt attacked, since it wasn't my intention, nor do I regularly criticize other governments. I was merely pointing out that it was absurd to attack Obama based upon the words of Chavez, who doesn't like the US at all.

[boyando]

I think that this just proves one thing. President Chavez needs a better teleprompter.

[Lamayana]

Originally Posted by FunkyTown

I'm not certain what you're saying here. You obviously disagree with me, so go ahead and let me know what you're disagreeing with:

1) Hugo Chavez dislikes America.

Are you saying that he doesn't dislike America?

2) Hugo Chavez is Communistic.

Are you saying he isn't Communistic?

3) He's a plucky li'l psycho who's oozing confidence.

I'm betting this was what you had issue with. If that's the case, I apologize for having offended you. Well, he's certainly 'Plucky' because he amended the Constitution of Venezuela to sidestep term limits. This is the beginning of a tyranny.

Is he psycho? Anti-Chavez student demonstrators were ambushed by masked gunmen. Hugo Chavez said, “They generally take the path of fascist violence and confront the laws and the people, and they are always looking to the Pentagon, high-ranking generals,”. Yes. Saying that students deserved to be shot and beaten by thugs is psychotic.

Maybe it was 'Oozing Confidence?' Regardless, I didn't claim to speak for Jesus Christ when I insulted Chavez. He has certainly redressed some economic concerns. This does not make him a good man. I apologize that you felt attacked, since it wasn't my intention, nor do I regularly criticize other governments. I was merely pointing out that it was absurd to attack Obama based upon the words of Chavez, who doesn't like the US at all.

You seem to forget that the model of US Capitalism is collapsing with no hope for resurrection. What you call "Communism" in your language, in reality is considered "Compassion" in mine. Hugo Chavez has been elected by a large majority of his own people by popular choice. It is because of biased language such as this you use to describe those you disagree with, that the better relations among the countries are not possible.

[FunkyTown]

Originally Posted by boyando

I think that this just proves one thing. President Chavez needs a better teleprompter.

This sounds like a slam at Obama and a comparison between him and Hugo Chavez.

You're being absurd, Boyando. Obama has not abolished term limits, has not shot protesters and basically made the mistake of listening to his advisors where it came time for bailouts.

[FunkyTown]

Originally Posted by Lamayana

You seem to forget that the model of US Capitalism is collapsing with no hope for resurrection. What you call "Communism" in your language, in reality is considered "Compassion" in mine. Hugo Chavez has been elected by a large majority of his own people by popular choice. It is because of biased language such as this you use to describe those you disagree with, that the better relations among the countries are not possible.

Yyyyyyyyes. I should point out as everyone on this board knows that I'm not from the US. I do not live in the US. I was born in Canada and now live in Britain.

And Hugo Chavez isn't a big fan of most western nations. He called Jose' Aznar, the Spanish Prime Minister, a 'Fascist' and actually repeatedly bashed him with the word while he was sitting beside the man. It took the King to say 'Shut up' to him to get him to stop.

Hugo Chavez may be popular locally, and I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Please, feel free to provide links to any speeches that show Hugo Chavez as being a tolerant, broad-minded individual with a moderate political stance.

Maybe something nice about his reactions towards protesters during his removal of presidential term as set out in the Venezuelan Constitution? Maybe something he said nice about the US? I'm certainly more than willing to accept that I might be wrong in this case. After all, international politics is a tricky business. I would love to hear that Hugo Chavez is polite and respectful to those he disagrees with, or who oppose him.