How long before we take to the streets?

[boyando]

Everyone seems to be very excited and somewhat proud of the way that our fellow human beings from Iran are standing up for freedom. How long will it be, before we also take to the streets, in a search for a return to freedom?

As I have stated before, my daily prayers include praying for the success of President Obama. What a shame it would be, if the first President from African-American decent went down in history, as one of the most hated. Hated not because he was African-American, but because of his desire to replace freedom with government control.

Our President is not alone in his desire. Democrats and Republicans alike have for many years, been chipping away slowly at our freedoms, in the name of bettering our lives. But with President Obama, there does not seem to be a press core willing to point out what he is doing. Does this sound familiar to the people of Iran?

I know that with all facts being tossed out there, all the he said she said stuff, it can get very confusing. So I hope that you who believe that President Obama has not and can not do any thing wrong, will ponder this one of many examples of the loss of freedoms.

Were in the constitution, does it give the right for the government, to close one business, I.E. a car dealership, so another competitors company can buy the inventory from the closed company, below the cost from the factory.

We could argue all day, and get no were, trying to figure out, if this was a good or a bad business decision. That would just belay my point. We have in the past, had great freedoms and now that they are being taken away, the people of this great country will soon wake up, and take to the streets.

My question is how soon? And will I see you there?

[Dravin]

Were in the constitution, does it give the right for the government, to close one business, I.E. a car dealership, so another competitors company can buy the inventory from the closed company, below the cost from the factory.

Source?

I've heard of various car companies refusing to renew contracts* with licensed dealerships in an effort to save money and possibly thin the heard to allow the more successful ones to succeed. You don't want to discuss if such is a good business decision or not, which is fine (so I won't) , but all I've heard is the companies not renewing contracts which they are free to do. I've not heard of a single government forced closure of a dealership (ones caught doing illegal things don't really count for your complaint), which is not to say they couldn't have happened but I'm just not ware of it.

So basically to cut to the chase, can you provide a cite where you are getting the information that the government is coming around and shutting down dealerships?

*This is not the same as closing a dealer, you just don't get the special deal on X brand anymore and the marketing aspect Random Joe's Ford/Lincoln/Mercury and what not. You can still sell cars and as long as you can sell enough of them at a high enough profit you can keep your doors open.

[talisyn]

My fellow Americans and I did stand up for freedom and democracy and the American Way. Back in November when we voted Pres. Obama in.

[Aesa]

Originally Posted by talisyn

My fellow Americans and I did stand up for freedom and democracy and the American Way. Back in November when we voted Pres. Obama in.

You have never had a democracy, none of us have.
You did not vote President Obama in.
He was the most funded by the financial powers, and that is why he won.
The same goes for George Bush, John Howard, Kevin Rudd,.
And I'm happy to provide proof for that.

As long as you have the government owned by financial elements of society, you can -never- have a democracy.
Democracy is supposed to put people in power, not those using artificial methods of social operation (money) to make the decision for those with less power.
That's fascism.

Were in the constitution, does it give the right for the government, to close one business, I.E. a car dealership, so another competitors company can buy the inventory from the closed company, below the cost from the factory.

Are you talking about the Federal Reserve's new powers since Obama's "financial reform"? It actually is legal, it's just that it's unconstitutional because a government doesn't have the right to give that power to a corporation.
It's important to remember that the Federal Reserve is a private bank, and therefore is able to behave like one.
I assume that's what you're talking about, but maybe not.

There will be rioting on the streets when things no longer work for the masses. When their homes are being foreclosed en masse; fuel and groceries become unaffordable, etc,. When things start to smell of the 1930's, is when we will see a beginning of gravitation towards that.
And when people lose confidence in their elected leaders, that's the end of this system.

[FunkyTown]

Oh, I'm taking it to the streets and REPRESENTING. All those fancypants in Washington are afraid of the fancypants revolution:

YouTube - Mr. Fancy Pants

[Aesa]

XD!

[drjme]

Originally Posted by talisyn

My fellow Americans and I did stand up for freedom and democracy and the American Way. Back in November when we voted Pres. Obama in.

Whats the difference between a republic and democracy and which one is the american way?

[FunkyTown]

Hahah. Thanks, Aesa.

I should make my viewpoint known: I always find it interesting that when civil rights are taken away, the overwhelming attitude is utter apathy, but when changes to the economy go on, someone dies.

It happened to Martin Luther King, who was assassinated only when he started to concentrate on economic redress rather than civil rights issues: (For a viewpoint on what he wanted, go to: Money and Values: Martin Luther King on Economic Justice )

Malcolm X (Who started arguing economic redress in his later years),

Gandhi (Who started fighting more towards a Village based economy, which I think is an interesting model) - Economic Ideals of Gandhi

Abraham Lincoln threatened southern prosperity, who argued that slavery was how the south competed with Northern companies.

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I find it interesting that people are pretty laissez faire about their own rights, such as the right to Habeas Corpus, but that when people suspect their economy of being threatened, they take to the streets.

Bread and circuses. The romans were right.

[bytor2112]

Originally Posted by talisyn

My fellow Americans and I did stand up for freedom and democracy and the American Way. Back in November when we voted Pres. Obama in.

and also the 58,000,000 million who didn't vote him in........

[DigitalShadow]

Originally Posted by boyando

We could argue all day, and get no were, trying to figure out, if this was a good or a bad business decision. That would just belay my point. We have in the past, had great freedoms and now that they are being taken away, the people of this great country will soon wake up, and take to the streets.

What freedoms are we missing? Over the entire course of my life I have never noticed any varying freedoms or felt less than 100% free.