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06-25-2009, 12:58 AM
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The United States has been in such a bizarre situation for so very long in touting human rights to other countries, but being the only industrialized country in the world that does not see to the health care needs of all its citizens. It has been estimated (before the economic crisis) that 45 million Americans are without affordable health care. That number has no doubt climbed by now. Regardless of how many millions are without such care, US citizens should be receiving some type of workable health care through a functioning health care system.
Republican's by now realize that the only time significant gains are made for the populace as a whole is when there is a Democratic President and both Houses of Congress are controlled by the Democrats. At these times, they are capable of passing such legislation as to bring Social Security, Medicare and now a health care system into being. This has been such a hot potato issue, but I realize after watching TV, that health care in Hoboken is indeed thought of differently than in the Hamptons. The Republicans taking their cue from the Hamptons have no choice but to act as an impediment to legislation that benefits the entire populace.
Yes, I realize that many of you think that health care for all is the work of the adversary, as well as the instrument that will plunge us headlong into full scale socialism.
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Who is going to pay for this socialize service? Have you live in a country where this is instituted?
What is scary here is the apathy problem among the populace, in not seeing a trend of nationalism.
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06-25-2009, 01:28 AM
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Who is going to pay for this socialize service? Have you live in a country where this is instituted?
What is scary here is the apathy problem among the populace, in not seeing a trend of nationalism.
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How blind do we have to be not to see it now? We've nationalized General Motors, for crying out loud! That great American automobile brand, Chevrolet (and this coming from a Ford man), a historic bastion of private enterprise, is now an agency of the federal government.
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Better the government than a for-profit insurance industry that precludes much needed health care for many, in a quest to maximize profits. You do make a good point, nothing is ever spotless or corruption free.
For many, their best remedy is never to get sick.
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or as Ronnie us to say......I am from the gov't and I am here to help.....better grab your wallet....
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07-01-2009, 02:29 PM
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RealClearPolitics - "Better" Health Care?
Interesting article about the canadian healthcare system which addresses some of what was discussed in this thread
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07-02-2009, 09:35 AM
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One of the things that the Republicans did, before they went all RINO on us, was to give us a very watered down health savings account. My beautiful bride has a disease that requires a lot of maintenance. So the account saves our family money and it saves her work, who provides the insurance, money. Win, win.
I guess no one points this out, because it came from the republicans. And if the republicans had the cure for cancer, there would be many people who would still die from it, because they place there ideology above common sense.
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07-02-2009, 03:59 PM
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And if the republicans had the cure for cancer, there would be many people who would still die from it, because they place there ideology above common sense.
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You mean they would price it too high for most people to afford?
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07-02-2009, 05:33 PM
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One of the things that the Republicans did, before they went all RINO on us, was to give us a very watered down health savings account. My beautiful bride has a disease that requires a lot of maintenance. So the account saves our family money and it saves her work, who provides the insurance, money. Win, win.
I guess no one points this out, because it came from the republicans. And if the republicans had the cure for cancer, there would be many people who would still die from it, because they place there ideology above common sense.
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I mentioned earlier that I use a Health Savings Account that is really working good for me. Yes, nobody mentioned it's Republican led. Which I prefer. Because, Moshka's original post makes it sound like he is just parroting what he was fed by the Democratic side of Washington. In today's American politics, everytime you say, Democrats did this, Republicans did that, you start to sound like a 5 year old in the sandbox.
I prefer to take party politics out of this equation and REALLY think about what is best for this country regardless of whose idea it was.
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07-02-2009, 05:36 PM
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You mean they would price it too high for most people to afford?
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No, he meant, Democrats would not vote for it because it was a Republican idea so it will never be made available to the people. And you wouldn't inundate your congressman with phone calls because you will also think it's a bad thing because you're a democrat.
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